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urbanspaceman
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Passing this on:
The Herne Hill Society and the Brockwell Park Community Partners proudly present:
The Thomas Lynn Bristowe Memorial Lecture
Saturday 9 June, 7:45pm
“The Honourable Member for Norwood” by Helen Hayes MP
Venue: In the Baptist Church, Half Moon Lane. Free - all welcome - no ticket needed
We are delighted that Helen Hayes, our Member of Parliament, has agreed to give the Thomas Lynn Bristowe Memorial Lecture. She will speak about being an MP for this constituency in the early 21st century, contrasted with Bristowe’s experience as the first MP for the 19th-century Norwood Division.
In the 1880s, the huge Blades Blackburn estate at Herne Hill was put up for sale for housing. Local MP Thomas Lynn Bristowe led a campaign to buy it as a public park. He even guaranteed the money needed to secure its purchase. In 1891 his campaign was successful and Brockwell Park was created.
This event is organised by the Herne Hill Society and Brockwell Park Community Partners.
The Herne Hill Society and the Brockwell Park Community Partners proudly present:
The Thomas Lynn Bristowe Memorial Lecture
Saturday 9 June, 7:45pm
“The Honourable Member for Norwood” by Helen Hayes MP
Venue: In the Baptist Church, Half Moon Lane. Free - all welcome - no ticket needed
We are delighted that Helen Hayes, our Member of Parliament, has agreed to give the Thomas Lynn Bristowe Memorial Lecture. She will speak about being an MP for this constituency in the early 21st century, contrasted with Bristowe’s experience as the first MP for the 19th-century Norwood Division.
In the 1880s, the huge Blades Blackburn estate at Herne Hill was put up for sale for housing. Local MP Thomas Lynn Bristowe led a campaign to buy it as a public park. He even guaranteed the money needed to secure its purchase. In 1891 his campaign was successful and Brockwell Park was created.
This event is organised by the Herne Hill Society and Brockwell Park Community Partners.
snowy_again
Slush
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hiraethified
Not an ice cream parlour. It's a gelateria, doncha know. Serving 'craft ice cream' with staff not getting the London Living Wage.
snowy_again
Slush
You're a bit twitchy aren't you.
I used to work for Criterion Ices in Sydenham in the 80s - that was a "gelateria" back then - it's not a trendy phrase - gelato is not the same as ice cream (it's made differently, has different ratios of ingredients etc.), but then you know that.
I used to work for Criterion Ices in Sydenham in the 80s - that was a "gelateria" back then - it's not a trendy phrase - gelato is not the same as ice cream (it's made differently, has different ratios of ingredients etc.), but then you know that.
jimbarkanoodle
Well-Known Member
"craft ice cream"? Much like beer, I thought that all ice cream was crafted, i.e made.
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hiraethified
Twitchy?
But when have you ever heard of "craft ice cream" before?
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hiraethified
It's just hipsters bollocks-speak. I get an in-box full of the same shite every day, but at least the fella has managed to omit the word 'vibrant' from his website. That said, if he was setting up in Pop Brixton, I'm sure it would be extremely vibrant.
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Angellic
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Really good gelato is, well, really good but craft ice cream is a scoop too far.
T & P
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I don’t think many people give much of a toss about the language businesses use to describe/ promote themselves anyway. Ultimately It’s nothing more than a source of mild amusement/ bemusement. It certainly would have no bearing on my feelings about a given business opening up locally.
Not sure how successful their location will prove to be though. These days most people don’t need to use the ticket office, and at HH you don’t need to walk through the ticketing hall to access the platforms...
Not sure how successful their location will prove to be though. These days most people don’t need to use the ticket office, and at HH you don’t need to walk through the ticketing hall to access the platforms...
friendofdorothy
Solidarity against neoliberalism!
ooo! I like quality icecream
friendofdorothy
Solidarity against neoliberalism!
They are offering £9 plus free ice - which is a lot better than minimum wage and alot better than most people working in the care sector. If I was still working in a care home I might have applied for this job.
How may shops/bars/restraunts pay London Living wage? I'm all in favour of LLW and more people getting it, but we need more jobs too.
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hiraethified
Sorry but 'free ice' is hardly a bonus to shout about.
I'm all for bosses pocketing less for themselves and big fat earners getting taxed more.
friendofdorothy
Solidarity against neoliberalism!
I think all big multi national profit making business should be forced to pay a proper living wage and proper tax, instead of relying on taxpayers to top up their poor employees incomes. All profitable /big business should be able to pay above minimum. Sniping at small local businesses is a waste of my time.
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hiraethified
I don't think it's 'sniping' to comment on new businesses not paying the Living Wage. Are you saying it shouldn't even be mentioned just because they're a small business?
I don't believe it should it be swept under the carpet, regardless of the size of the business. The more people (and employees) who know about the Living Wage - and the reasons behind it - the better. And free ice creams don't pay the bills.
Gramsci
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I disagree. A lot of people work in SMEs. What you are saying here is that only big multinationals ( who are making a profit) should pay LLW.
When the New Labour government brought in minimum wage ( I'm no fan of Blair but early New Labour deserve credit for this) it was across the board for all business. Rightly so as otherwise a lot of people would not get it. They didn't say only applies to big multinationals.
Leaving aside how to assess who is profitable ( Uber is multinational yet still doesn't make profit) if an entrepreneurs initial business plan doesnt factor in LLW as a business cost and that business would not be viable if it did its pretty rubbish plan imo.
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T & P
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Perhaps we should compile and publish as a stickie in the forum a list of all the businesses in Brixton and surrounding areas that are known or believed to avoid paying the LLW.
Or perhaps not. But if we’re to highlight the fact that a particular business moving to the area is not paying the LLW, it seems fairest to allow forum readers to inform themselves about others that also don’t pay it. In particular when a number of such businesses get very a favourable treatment.
I’m all for discussing and promoting support for protests/ boycotts for companies whereby the workers are fighting for the LLW, such as the Ritzy btw. But as for the majority that are not currently experiencing such dispute, ether we diss them all or none at all imo.
Or perhaps not. But if we’re to highlight the fact that a particular business moving to the area is not paying the LLW, it seems fairest to allow forum readers to inform themselves about others that also don’t pay it. In particular when a number of such businesses get very a favourable treatment.
I’m all for discussing and promoting support for protests/ boycotts for companies whereby the workers are fighting for the LLW, such as the Ritzy btw. But as for the majority that are not currently experiencing such dispute, ether we diss them all or none at all imo.
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hiraethified
I disagree. I think it's entirely reasonable to ask if a new business that's moving into the area pays their staff the Living Wage or not. I'm struggling to think why anyone could possibly object to that. I haven't called for a boycott or 'dissed' the company or its products.
shakespearegirl
just worked out taglines
I don't think it is unreasonable to ask any company if they pay LLW, whether an existing business or a new comer. At least that way people can choose to prioritise using businesses that do pay it.
Maybe a dedicated thread should be started?
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hiraethified
Are you unable to use the 'start new thread' button or something?
If you do manage to start the thread, I'll look forward to seeing the in-depth research you'll no doubt put in first, although I expect anything you post will be as drearily agenda-driven as always.
discobastard
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People who care about it should have an informed choice, yes. And I suspect if we knew all the facts it would severely limit the places those that care can shop in. Including cutting out a lot of the smaller independent businesses that have been here for years and many of the larger convenience stores that pile it high and sell it affordably.
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hiraethified
How many times are you going to answer the same post?
brixtonblade
Well-Known Member
I do like the idea that I remember seeing here of a window sticker that LLW paying firms can put up
discobastard
Well-Known Member
Would you like to expand on that?
I think I understand it as sarcasm but, just for clarity.
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hiraethified
Actually, sorry, I mistook you for alcopop which is understandable given that you often have much the same 'personalised' approach whenever responding to any discussion I'm involved in.
Gramsci
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What shakespearegirl said was "prioritise" business that pay Living Wage. Not cut them out. That is unrealistic.
As you are so interested in this subject Lidl is supermarket store in Brixton and Stockwell that pays Living Wage.
I take it you will use Lidl not Tescos in Acre Lane from now on?
I don't use Tescos in Acre Lane as Lidl is the supermarket alternative that pays Living Wage.
That is example of realistic option. I can prioritise using Lidl.
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