Yeah, it was a huge thing. People on our side of the road put a petition together as they couldn't park outside their houses. The top end weren't being affected by commuters so they didn't want it. I didn't really care as I don't have a car but if it means more people leave their cars at home when commuting to their job, it would be good. I knew it was fairly fraught but didn't realise it was that bad!
Help or Advice - Parking space needed for a week
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Yeah, it was a huge thing. People on our side of the road put a petition together as they couldn't park outside their houses. The top end weren't being affected by commuters so they didn't want it. I didn't really care as I don't have a car but if it means more people leave their cars at home when commuting to their job, it would be good. I knew it was fairly fraught but didn't realise it was that bad!
It seems inappropriate that we now have to pay £175 a year to park on our own road but I don't think that having fewer cars needs to be the answer, (I understand the environmental reasons for fewer cars of course just not for the parking problem) since there does seem to be enough space for everyone. Obviously our road (Medora Rd) and the surrounding streets in the cpz are are less than 50% full now the cpz has been introduced, whereas the roads without the residents parking are rammed. However if the cpz were to be removed from everywhere or more widespread payment options were introduced a lot more cars could be accomodated without penalising residents. Rather than solving a parking issue it seems that the residents parking schemes are mainly a great way for the council to make money from residents who don't have a choice if they own a car. The council have created new revenue streams from us that I don't really understand how they justify. Why not allow residents to park for free and just have pay and display along every road so they can charge the people who want don't live there but want to leave their cars in these roads? This way the council would be fairer on residents, receive cash and the parking spaces could be more evenly distributed without the tensions caused by some streets being impossible to park on.
Laughing Toad
Turn the volume down please.
Extend the Controlled Parking Zone to include everywhere. Owning a car in Inner London is a selfish luxury, not a right.
Ms T
Honey-coloured ramparts
I live less than ten minutes away from Brixton and I do think a controlled parking zone is necessary. The answer is to extend them, and just make the parking permits cheaper, like they used to be. The cost has gone up exponentially in the past few years.
Laughing Toad
Turn the volume down please.
It's not your road. It belongs to everyone, and there are much better uses for it than the storage of your car.
Yeah, allowing residents to park free and charging others would be a better solution. But then it wouldn't be Lambeth.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
About 50p a day to leave your ugly possessions sitting around in the public realm taking up several square metres of space.
shakespearegirl
just worked out taglines
We live right on the border and there are a lot more cars parking in our street since the cpz has been introduced. We didn't live here when the consultation was done, but local residents objected to it being established due to the costs. They now seem to be leaning towards it as its getting difficult to park unless you time it to get in before/after the commuters
OK, fair point the road isn't mine and it obviously needs to be shared but the only other use for the area next to the curb on my street presumably would be the storage of some else's car if mine isn't there. I am suggesting that residents should be given priority on the road on which they live. It was probably selfish of me to suggest that I should be able to park for free but the cost is excessive and I am suggesting that residents' fees could be offset by allowing other people the chance to park there too. This would solve the main problem of some streets being impossible to park on for the people who live there. I think Ms T is right - if you are nearer to the centre of Brixton it must be a nightmare and so the cpz should exist and be extended but try to make so much money out of residents is not the answer.
stuff_it
Too skool for cool
I used to have to do similar when I lived in Bethnal Green, back when a lot of South Hackney was still unrestricted. If it's a hire car watch parking under big trees due to bird poo, falling branches, etc.
hmmph
Well-Known Member
Lambeth Council have to pay for the road repairs and maintenance in the borough so it seems only fair that those costs should be covered by those who have cars and not out of the general council tax. Hopefully this is where the parking permit money goes... with Lambeth though, you just never know
stuff_it
Too skool for cool
Fucking isn't in Milton Keynes, they charge a fortune for parking and the roads have potholes the size of a mini.
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
usually there are parking spaces there, loughborough park is also pretty clear, and the one on the other side ot the moorlands estate too, there is also "free" parking on the GT but this is likely to get crowded when they actually stat the work here which is fairly soon as they have been moving a lot of stuff onto site.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
On what basis do you consider it excessive?
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
there hardly ever is a restricted parking space available, due to the fact that they sell more than one permit per available space
cnuts
also, I'd really like to know why parking ticket people seem to be exempt from following the parking rules.
cnuts
also, I'd really like to know why parking ticket people seem to be exempt from following the parking rules.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
I pay nothing in Hackney - despite being near a train station which is 10 minutes from the city
bi0boy
Power User
If they charged residents enough for parking, fewer people might own cars. Roads with parking currently on both sides might then have parking only on one side and nice big cycle lanes or trees.
On the basis that it's 50% - 200% in excess of comparable surrounding boroughs like Wandsworth, Southwark and Croydon - it's 50% more than the City of Westminster even. The resident parking zones are supposed to be for residents not as a penalty for having a car. Obviously there is an anti-car argument but that is separate to the issue of residents' parking spaces.
Rushy
basically a scrotum
Lambeth's CPZ resi permit charges range from £0 - 260 p.a. based on emissions. It does seem sensible to encourage low emissions vehicles although I am sure it is tempting for the council to exploit users with average-high emissions and simply claim they are being green.
Returning to the original question - there is lots of free parking available just off Brixton Road going towards Kennington - roads around Myatts Fields Park as well as roads such as Lilford, Knatchbull, Burton and Paulet in SW9/ SE5 are all available for parking
Much to residents' annoyance Lambeth decided not to put in a CPZ in the area after receiving negative responses in the consultation they carried out - mostly from them the minority of local residents who are car owners around here and so we provide free parking facilities for hoardes of parked cars from Camberwell and Brixton whilst cyclists, pedestrians and everyone else suffers (rant over)
Much to residents' annoyance Lambeth decided not to put in a CPZ in the area after receiving negative responses in the consultation they carried out - mostly from them the minority of local residents who are car owners around here and so we provide free parking facilities for hoardes of parked cars from Camberwell and Brixton whilst cyclists, pedestrians and everyone else suffers (rant over)
teuchter
je suis teuchter
I use streetcar - the charge per year to have a car available within 10-15 mins walk of my home is about £60. That's the membership fee - if I want to use the car, then I pay by the hour/mile. Apparently there are about 1300 cars and 75,000 members, so about 1 car per 57 users. So effectively each car is shared by 57 people paying £60 a year, which means that we are jointly paying £3,420 per year per car occupying a parking space on the street.
Obviously not all that money goes to the council - I've no idea how much streetcar pays local authorities to use a space. And you might say it's not comparing apples with apples. But perhaps it's one way of putting things in perspective.
People jointly pay over £3k to have the share-car available on the street; you pay £175.
Individually we pay £60 against your £175 but then you have it on your doorstep and you can use it any time, and it probably spends a greater proportion of its time sitting there doing nothing useful with all its embodied energy.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
That's just the membership fee - the amount you pay per mile/hour if you use one of the cars is comparable to the real cost per mile of using a private car, factoring in the things you mention.
Boudicca
Seaside Queen
I don't think the doorhandle thing is true, but it was quite a big fight. I live in the bit closer to Tulse Hill which had all the commuter parking problems. I don't use my car that much and would have preferred to put up with the extra cars rather than suffer Lambeth parking wardens. But the other end of the street behaved so selfishly (we don't have the problem, so you can just keep it down your end) it came down to neighbour solidarity and I voted with our end of the street.
I voted with our end of the street because all my neighbours wanted it and I wanted to help them out.
