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Has the Queen died?

Guineveretoo said:
except that all this is educating them. Apparently, schools were talking about it on Friday as well. Some, at least, of these young people who knew very little about the Royal Family, will know a lot more after all the coverage. I know a lot more than I did, and I knew enough before.
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Yes, when I've failed to avoid Royal family stuff, the historical/constitutional elements are quite interesting.

There was a reasonable programme on LBC yesterday evening about what a Charles III monarchy might look like (slimmed down, apparently - will believe it when I see it). Although one of the 'monarchy experts' speaking did mention in serious tones that he couldn't see George V jumping out of a helicopter with Daniel Craig. :D

OH was sent into semi-apoplexy last night on seeing some 'breaking news' on the BBC website. Which was that William, Harry, Kate and Megan were viewing floral tributes.
 
Remember all the times over the last at-least-30-years that people said Brenda might be the last monarch and people wouldn’t stand for Chuck on the throne?

Turns out that I was right to be sceptical that there would be any popular uprising or any constitutional way of challenging the succession. Instead, surprise surprise, the establishment moved incredibly swiftly to install the new king and carry on.
 
weepiper said:
Lots of people in the crowd near me not singing and muttering crossly about rebellious Scot crushing.
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When Mrs Q and I visited Edinburgh there was this guy dressed as William Wallace (the Australian one rather than the historically accurate one) on Castlehill, It would be cool if he was there now
 
kabbes said:
Remember all the times over the last at-least-30-years that people said Brenda might be the last monarch and people wouldn’t stand for Chuck on the throne?

Turns out that I was right to be sceptical that there would be any popular uprising or any constitutional way of challenging the succession. Instead, surprise surprise, the establishment moved incredibly swiftly to install the new king and carry on.
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Don't know what recent polls say regarding the level of support that still exists for the monarchy but I should imagine that it is still pretty solid.Chap near me on the bus who to my eye looked like a retired mender of roads managed to discuss the current difficulties of the Royals for fully forty five minutes with his OH on speakerphone.Might have thought it was his own family up against it.🙂
 
Passed through Chathams glittering shopping centre earlier, the book of condolence has prime spot, by Wilko. Heard one flag shagger say to her mate "have you done the one in Rochester cathedral? I'm going to do them all".
 
kabbes said:
Remember all the times over the last at-least-30-years that people said Brenda might be the last monarch and people wouldn’t stand for Chuck on the throne?

Turns out that I was right to be sceptical that there would be any popular uprising or any constitutional way of challenging the succession. Instead, surprise surprise, the establishment moved incredibly swiftly to install the new king and carry on.
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The wheels of state never stop in this country, that's why there was mention of "The King and Queen Consort" in the initial statement. Succession is automatic.

If there is to be protest, it might wait until after the funeral. Taking a step back from U75, where opinion is very much sceptical, we can all see that the response is currently one of mourning, reflection and support. Of course that might change. But as attitudes toward politicians are at an all time low, I'm not surprised to see a significant coalescence around the Royals.

If the cost of living crisis gets any worse, then perhaps things will ramp up against certain elements of the "system". Personally I can't see the Royals being targeted by those protests if they're not seen as responsible, the ire will be directed towards politicians. Poll Tax protests didn't go after the Queen as far as I remember.
 
The Sovereign Grant's about £85 million pa isn't it? Less than 2p each. Bit difficult to get hot under the collar about that when the parliamentarians wasted many more times than that on padding the pockets of their mates during the pandemic.
 
cesare said:
The Sovereign Grant's about £85 million pa isn't it? Less than 2p each. Bit difficult to get hot under the collar about that when the parliamentarians wasted many more times than that on padding the pockets of their mates during the pandemic.
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Think this is the point that will be examined over the next few weeks and months as the Royalty are focussed upon for the first real time since Diana's death. Politicians have rarely been popular but since the expenses scandal and the semi-adoption of American culture war attitudes, their stock will never rise again. This is how and why the Crown remains, always appearing to be "better" or above MPs.
 
cesare said:
The Sovereign Grant's about £85 million pa isn't it? Less than 2p each. Bit difficult to get hot under the collar about that when the parliamentarians wasted many more times than that on padding the pockets of their mates during the pandemic.
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that's what the royal parasites rely on.
 
Petcha said:
I couldn't agree more. Like her mother, she has been selfless in her tireless work. The sacrifices she has made for us all. I'm really not sure how either of them have managed to do it all, for all these years.

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Yes, things on their watch have just got better and better for disabled people on benefits, while they themselves have to cope with only a few homes with all those rooms, free heating, fancy clothes etc. Utterly selfless, so much thought for others.
 
cesare said:
The Sovereign Grant's about £85 million pa isn't it? Less than 2p each. Bit difficult to get hot under the collar about that when the parliamentarians wasted many more times than that on padding the pockets of their mates during the pandemic.
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No idea about the numbers. It's the fucking principle of the thing that fucks me off. And where did all that huge 'personal' wealth come from exactly? :mad:
 
Sue said:
No idea about the numbers. It's the fucking principle of the thing that fucks me off. And where did all that huge 'personal' wealth come from exactly? :mad:
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The huge personal wealth came from us, as it did for all the huge land owners ever including the 2nd largest landowner outside London which is the Jesuits.
 
PR1Berske said:
Think this is the point that will be examined over the next few weeks and months as the Royalty are focussed upon for the first real time since Diana's death. Politicians have rarely been popular but since the expenses scandal and the semi-adoption of American culture war attitudes, their stock will never rise again. This is how and why the Crown remains, always appearing to be "better" or above MPs.
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Not sure where you get your timeline from tbh.
 
cesare said:
The huge personal wealth came from us, as it did for all the huge land owners ever including the 2nd largest landowner outside London which is the Jesuits.
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Exactly. I'd want that back an' all.

(Thought it was the Duke of Buccleuch but they're all crooks so...)
 
tonysingh said:
Passed through Chathams glittering shopping centre earlier, the book of condolence has prime spot, by Wilko. Heard one flag shagger say to her mate "have you done the one in Rochester cathedral? I'm going to do them all".
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In my head I read/heard that quoted overheard in pure N.Kentonese. :D
 
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