anyone ISIS damn you
Gah you're right (I even had to make my tired mind consider whether anyone could be singular and plural or not there. I'm still not 100% it can't be both).
Harry Roberts has been freed
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Gah you're right (I even had to make my tired mind consider whether anyone could be singular and plural or not there. I'm still not 100% it can't be both).
TopCat
Putin fanboy
You have been on here a long time, just cast your mind back to many of my posts.
Andrew Hertford
Chocolate Jesus
If he's got any sense he'll show some remorse and apologise to the families when he gets out. It wouldn't be much fun trying to live a strange new life at the age of 78 with the whole world hating your guts.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
The bun fight will probably happen when I'm asleep.
I'm an hour from my bed too.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I've been here for 14 years. My profile information is wrong for some reason.
I joined U75 in May 2000 as a troll to take the piss out of those "kettled" at Oxford Circus, but then got sucked
He won't be given that impression at football matches.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
nobody under 40 cares who he is let alone hates his guts.
Andrew Hertford
Chocolate Jesus
Then he'll have to avoid his peers and hang around with the under 40s.
The guy on PM? He was a serving copper. God knows where they dug him up from but he couldn't even make his argument well.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Seriously Dotski, look him up.
Harry Roberts is one of the nastiest cunts that ever existed.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Noye got away with killing a copper iirc
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
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That's the one. I thought they said he was a police officer at the end but then I thought he couldn't have been. He sounded really thick! I couldn't understand why they let him keep talking
Reckon a producer got bollocked for that one
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
fogbat
The Talibum
Started as a winner. Continued that way.
co-op
But....but cLoWnFiSh....
"Done it before therefore likely to do it again" is nearly always wrong for murder, it has pretty much the lowest recidivism rate of any crime, typically about 2% from memory. Although from other stuff in the thread, it does sound like Harry Roberts is more likely to be one of the 2% than your average killer.
fogbat
The Talibum
We are the 98 percent.
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
I doubt many people have a problem with whole-life sentences for some criminals. In some cases I don't, either. I don't see the likes of Dennis Nilsen or Peter Sutcliffe as being good prospects for ever being released. But I do see whole-life sentences as something that should be reserved for those who pose the most lasting danger to society. Roberts killed three people in cold blood and had a serious,m long-term list of previous convictions, granted, but he's also 80-odd years old and unlikely to ever pose a major threat. The problem for Roberts is similar to that faced by Ronnie Biggs and the Krays. He was held possibly longer than he might have been because of who he is as much as what he did. The Krays tried to build a criminal empire, Biggs made a career out of making the Establishment look stupid, Roberts murdered three representatives of the Establishment, police officers. If you kill a police officer then you're seen as striking against not three individuals but the forces of the State itself. 48 years might seem like a long sentence, but the average life sentence for murder is around sixteen years, so 48 for killing three police officers isn't really as much a surprise as you might at first think. When it comes to whole-life sentences, I'd far prefer to examine them on a case by case basis than have a blanket rule.
1975
hot air baboon
Well-Known Member
....both sides of the argument could agree on that sentiment....depending on how they interpret it.......
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
They're fair game.
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
Can see why the Police Fed aren't keen on his release:-
“They keep asking me ‘Do you feel remorse, Harry?’ And I say no. We didn’t want to murder anyone. That was the last thing we wanted. We shot them because we thought they were going to nick us and we didn’t want to go to jail for 15 years. We were professional criminals. We don’t react the same way as ordinary people. The police aren’t like real people to us. They’re strangers, they’re the enemy. And you don’t feel remorse for killing a stranger. I do feel sorry for what we did to their families. I do. But it’s like people I killed in Malaya when I was in the army. You don’t feel remorse.”http://www.nickdavies.net/1993/02/01/meeting-the-man-who-kills-coppers/
“They keep asking me ‘Do you feel remorse, Harry?’ And I say no. We didn’t want to murder anyone. That was the last thing we wanted. We shot them because we thought they were going to nick us and we didn’t want to go to jail for 15 years. We were professional criminals. We don’t react the same way as ordinary people. The police aren’t like real people to us. They’re strangers, they’re the enemy. And you don’t feel remorse for killing a stranger. I do feel sorry for what we did to their families. I do. But it’s like people I killed in Malaya when I was in the army. You don’t feel remorse.”http://www.nickdavies.net/1993/02/01/meeting-the-man-who-kills-coppers/
Sweet FA
✪ Three rounds Lord, in my .44 ✪
Onket
Je suis [CONTENT REMOVED]
Why do you bother?
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
Well, so did I, post #265.
Onket
Je suis [CONTENT REMOVED]
Well done.
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