Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
Mobile phones are very valuable currency in prison. He'd be aware of them.
Harry Roberts has been freed
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Mobile phones are very valuable currency in prison. He'd be aware of them.
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
If the media are correct in saying that Robert's made calls to the Cartwright's over a 4 year period, surely plod wouldn't have had any problems in tracing those calls. Yet they didn't.
krink
I'll do it this afternoon
When the coppers walked in a line along the side of the pitch we used to sing the laurel n hardy tune then when they started throwing their weight around we started the 'harry Roberts' song. Good old days of football not the boring shit of today (though I'm glad the overtly racist songs have gone)
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
Exactly, doesn't quite add up.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
When I read that point in the posts above, my immediate assumption was that he had friends on the outside who did the hate calls and animal abuse for him.
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
It's a perfectly possible assumption - but why would they, knowing that calls could be easily traced? A few one off calls, yeah, but over 4 years & plod did nothing?
You'd expect plod to be frothing, & pinning everything they could on Robert's to thwart his parole.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
The calls were supposed to have followed his last parole being turned down - they were part of his alleged revenge on Joan Cartwright and the St. Bernard'S Animal Sanctuary for giving evidence against him at the parole hearing. The parole hearing and the fact that they allowed the Cartwrights to give evidence in secret through david blunkett bringing in special measures is on the record. I don't know if the parole board was able to check say phone records or not though. The police and prison staff already had their story to keep him in - drug dealing, gambling, associating with other criminals when out on day release (he was photographed 120 miles away from here he was supposed to be with known armed robbers for instance- going to TGI friday with a kray family member as well), getting his brief to do illegal things for him and so on - all the usual stuff they will invent if need be. They didn't need this other stuff - they already had him where they wanted him (partly through his own stupidity it seems).
andysays
Love and solidarity
How easy is it to trace calls made from a PAYG moblie, or from a public call box, assuming you can still find one that works?
Which doesn't prove that HR or anyone acting on his behalf did this, but the suggestion it couldn't possibly have happened or plod would have enough evidence to prove it doesn't really stand up to the briefest examination
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
As said above - this evidence was given in secret and a banning order was put in place preventing naming them. This wasn't lifted until nearly 10 years after the alleged incidents. There was no publicity at all about the claims to pull on anyone's heart strings.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
So are the likes of you and me to people like Roberts. So was the pensioner he beat to death with a bottle. So was the person he beat half to death with an iron bar. All fair game.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Come on, Bish. It's a piece of piss to make untraceable phone calls and always has been. Just use a phone box.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
fyi: pay phones can be readily traced. and the person making the call can be traced via the cctv which covers so many of the remaining pay phones.
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
From what you said in your previous post, it looks like he really doesn't give a fuck about jeopardising his parole.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Perhaps in the city but anyone who can't find a working phone box that's not viewed by cctv out in the sticks is probably too incompetent to be trusted to make the call in the first place.
Ted Striker
Foot's on the other hand
I don't want to tempt fate, but if he does kill another copper, would that make it the first demo/terrace chant that's actually achieved its stated request?
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Is there another verse to it then?
andysays
Love and solidarity
People who want to make untraceable calls and (for some unknown reason) don't have access to a PAYG mobile, presumably.
And as for "cellphone"
Americanism Thread -------------------------------------------->
maomao
普費斯
Harry Roberts is our friend,
is our friend, is our friend.
Harry Roberts is our friend, he kills coppers.
Let him out to kill some more,
kill some more, kill some more,
let him out to kill some more, Harry Roberts
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Five words which show you don't have the first idea of what "justice" is supposed to be.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
It has to, otherwise an already-broken system becomes entirely worthless.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
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Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
People who want to make untraceable calls and (for some unknown reason) don't have access to a PAYG mobile, presumably.
And as for "cellphone"
Americanism Thread -------------------------------------------->
Cellphone is an Americanism??
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
tbh it's becoming increasingly difficult to find a working pay phone and most of them no longer take coins.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh it is everyone knows that
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Spymaster is manifesting opinions that have always been prevalent, and which show how some people don't want to understand the meaning of the statue of Lady Justice that sits atop the Old Bailey, why she holds sword and scales.
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