Hammond's Autumn (Budget) Statement 2017, due Wednesday 22nd November.
- Thread starter William of Walworth
- Start date
BemusedbyLife
Well-Known Member
I'll be £8.42 a month better off yay let the good times roll.
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
Apparently it’s less money than it cost them to freeze alcohol duty.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
No wine here.
mauvais
on reddit or something
On closer examination it doesn't make any difference how much you drink anyway. I guess they can't be arsed to change their website each year.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
This is ridiculous. None of us are better off by a meaningful amount, an amount that actually makes a difference to our lives.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
I will also apparently be £8.42 better off.
Me too - the calculator is obviously fixed.
Just put random salary levels in for the same age and it comes back as the same figure.
crossthebreeze
Well-Known Member
Its not that its a small amount that i'll be better off for in itself that bothers me.
Its that
a) The amount will almost certainly be dwarfed by increases either directly caused by austerity or in the government's control in one way or another - council tax, local charges for anything from swimming to bulky waste collection, public transport fares, stamps, etc. Let alone the general rise in the cost of living and my stagnating wage and the increasing uncertainty in my workplace.
B) And all of the sick and disabled people and single parents (and others) that I know whose income has gone down massively in the last year - or who face income cuts in the next year - due to benefit cuts in the last few budgets who gain fuck all from this budget.
crossthebreeze
Well-Known Member
It must be because the only measure that applies to us is the increase in the personal allowance.
farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
Probably right. I was disappointed though that it wouldn't let me put a salary of £200m to see what gain/loss such a person would have.
BemusedbyLife
Well-Known Member
People who have that much dosh don't get it as salary, they get it through share dividends, return on their portfolio's and a shed load of other dodgy accounting tricks.Probably right. I was disappointed though that it wouldn't let me put a salary of £200m to see what gain/loss such a person would have.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
It's just fucking shit all round.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Probably right. I was disappointed though that it wouldn't let me put a salary of £200m to see what gain/loss such a person would have.
According to that Frau Bahn and I face a loss of £78 a month, we don’t earn £200m tho.
The thing that’s pissing me off most right now is that hospitals round here are starting to charge blue badge holders for parking, in spite of the two big ones not being in a town centre, so it’s not to put off shoppers or office workers, it’s just to raise money from the people who need to visit the hospital most often combined with having the hardest time earning money. Sick puppies, the wank-stains who came up with that.
farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
mx wcfc
Well-Known Member
Probably because nobody on £200m a year is daft enough to have it paid as salary.Probably right. I was disappointed though that it wouldn't let me put a salary of £200m to see what gain/loss such a person would have.
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
Ooh £8.42 better off.... Make that about £4.33 when they cut my housing and council tax benefit when the minimum wage increases.
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
As Patrick Harvie (leader of the Scottish Greens) points out:
"Trouble Ahead": Experts and opponents pull apart the autumn budget
Sort of pisses all over my 'extra' couple of quid a month, the hundreds of pounds they've cut out from tax credits, child benefit and so on over the last few years.
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
Predictable rather than ridiculous, no? The purpose of Tory budgets is not to make the plebs better off.
In fact it's far worse than you not being better off. You will definitely be worse off, given the real terms wage drops predicted over the next few years.
I'm still waiting for the £9 an hour we were promised by George Osborne in 2015......
cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
Sadly, another another 3 years to wait.
£7.83 next year, I guess around £8.40 in 2019, before finally £9.00 in 2020.
National Living Wage - Wikipedia
cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
It was a 50p increase in 2016, so increases of around 60p are possible, especially as businesses have had plenty of notice to prepare themselves, but only time will tell.
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
It won't matter a toss anyway because by the time brexit happens and inflation that £9 an hour then will make about as much a difference to your life as the £8.42 a month we've all gotten from this budget now.
Not to mention the slashing of any in work benefit you get behind your back when they increase it. Every time they raise minimum wage (I refuse to call it living wage) they cut my housing and council tax benefit. It makes no difference to my life because my pay goes up by about a fiver a week but my benefits get cut by about £3.50, so in reality all I'm getting a week is one free bus ride... To work... They really make my life better don't they?
Last edited:
I obviously hope you are right, but if we really are getting £9 an hour in 2020 I would have expected a bigger rise yesterday.
By the way are under 25s getting any sort of rise? I do think it is bad that someone could be working for up to 9 years before being entitled to a full minimum wage.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Apprentice £3.50 -> £3.80
Under 18 £4.05 -> £4.20
Age 18-20 £5.60 -> £5.90
Age 21-24 £7.05 -> £7.38
Similar threads
