Hammond's Autumn (Budget) Statement 2017, due Wednesday 22nd November.

[weepiper]

National living wage increased to £7.83

I thought it was supposed to be going up to £8.05 in April 2018? I'm a bit miffed with that, I earn £7.75 an hour currently so £8.05 would actually make some difference. An extra 8p an hour, haud me back

 

[Nine Bob Note]

anyone got house yet?

No one's got a house, your man just said

 

[elbows]

Yep. it's cash for the schools, every time they add another person who agrees to do maths a level they get £600. I find that a bit worrying, as someone who was forced to do maths way beyond my capacity and got a U. Budget: More money for schools that attract 'extra' A-level maths students

My further education went pear shaped because of how much emphasis was placed on maths well beyond GCSE level for someone like me who was interested in computer science. I was great at GCSE level maths but I failed my A level maths and probably only made it to uni because of being born during a big dip in the birth rate. And there was nothing in degree level computer science that needed A level type maths skills in the end anyway!

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Yep. it's cash for the schools, every time they add another person who agrees to do maths a level the school gets £600. I find that a bit worrying, as someone who was forced to do maths way beyond my capacity and got a U. Budget: More money for schools that attract 'extra' A-level maths students

I never did A levels, so I'll have a stab at this if the school goes 50/50 with me on the cash. A sweet, sweet £150 coming my way

 

[DotCommunist]

more house buying subsidies for the children of the bourgeoisie

 

[Silas Loom]

That's such a massive stamp duty reduction that he must be about to announce CGT on property sale profits.

 

[trevhagl]

tax on the white lightening, safe.

eeer what ye givin it ye radgie CIIIDERRR ....ha ! Be glad we're not in Scotland - though i am thinking of exporting the chav juice like some kind of modern day prohibition twist

 

[trevhagl]

VAT threshold not being reduced.

well thats ONE thing , but what about BEER?

 

[DotCommunist]

c-byn near pounding the pulpit here

 

[cupid_stunt]

well thats ONE thing , but what about BEER?

Post 21 -

All other alcohol duties frozen.

 

[cupid_stunt]

eeer what ye givin it ye radgie CIIIDERRR ....ha ! Be glad we're not in Scotland - though i am thinking of exporting the chav juice like some kind of modern day prohibition twist

Chav juice?

 

[DotCommunist]

did andrew neil really just define productivity as if people wouldn't know what that means? foetus head

 

[equationgirl]

eeer what ye givin it ye radgie CIIIDERRR ....ha ! Be glad we're not in Scotland - though i am thinking of exporting the chav juice like some kind of modern day prohibition twist

Chav juice? You're out of order using that word. Reported.

 

[Winot]

more house buying subsidies for the children of the bourgeoisie

It’s actually likely to increase house prices so more likely to benefit selling bourgeoisie.

 

[SpookyFrank]

did andrew neil really just define productivity as if people wouldn't know what that means? foetus head

Maybe he was doing that for the benefit of the government, to whom prodictivity has long been an alien concept.

 

[equationgirl]

Stamp duty changes will not apply in Scotland.

 

[Silas Loom]

Phew. The diesel thing is a one-off charge on new cars. I bought a 2014 diesel in May with a vague assumption that they were low CO2, green, and in some way subsidised. Then I started noticing articles saying that diesel owners were anti-social particulate-spraying bastards, likely to be issued with punitive fines.

 

[equationgirl]

Also some interesting changes to benefits such as housing benefit to be paid for an additional two weeks to universal credit claimants. I'm under no illusion that this is for the benefit of the claimant.

£1.5bn extra to help sort out universal credit debacle.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Phew. The diesel thing is a one-off charge on new cars. I bought a 2014 diesel in May with a vague assumption that they were low CO2, green, and in some way subsidised. Then I started noticing articles saying that diesel owners were anti-social particulate-spraying bastards, likely to be issued with punitive fines.

I'm similar, difference being that mine is an Audi so I know that I'm an anti-social bastard

 

[DotCommunist]

£1.5bn extra to help sort out universal credit debacle.

if we are to believe IDS (yeah) hammond was the one who robbed from the UC pot in the first place which is why its fucked and deffo not IDS's fault. According to he.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I'm similar, difference being that mine is an Audi so I know that I'm an anti-social bastard

And, so does everyone else.

 

[BemusedbyLife]

It’s actually likely to increase house prices so more likely to benefit selling bourgeoisie.

This is shiate, I'm on £24k a year which is about the median average (not the mean which is distorted by a few wankers on £millions), the existing exception was £125K which is around the most I could hope to "afford", How many first time buyers can afford something like a £30-45K deposit and a £250K mortgage ? this is only going to benefit a small number of people who don't need it.

 

[Silas Loom]

I'm similar, difference being that mine is an Audi so I know that I'm an anti-social bastard

I thought that Audis were the least ostentatious and most sober of the big German three.

 

[Brainaddict]

Perhaps obvious to all here, but this was a stinking nothing of a budget. Nothing all round for everyone (except a few rich people, obviously). Nothing to address social care crisis, nothing to address failing mental health services, no pay rise announced for NHS workers (or for anyone else of course), a few peanuts to help slow (but not stop) the decline of the NHS, a few peanuts to rescue their own failing and brutal UC scheme.

The biggest measures seem to be to support developers to build lots of market price housing, presumably on green belt land.

No surprise of course, but in other words it's another death budget. Those who are dying due to Tory cuts can continue to do so untroubled by any intervention.

 

[Brainaddict]

btw, I'm going to take a wild guess about where the extra money for universal credit will go. The landlords have complained y'see. They will be inconvenienced by the lateness of payments. Extra money is therefore required to improve processes to make sure that landlords don't get into financial difficulties. Tories are so predictable, I'll buy everyone on this thread a pint if I turn out to be wrong.

 

[Pickman's model]

btw, I'm going to take a wild guess about where the extra money for universal credit will go. The landlords have complained y'see. They will be inconvenienced by the lateness of payments. Extra money is therefore required to improve processes to make sure that landlords don't get into financial difficulties. Tories are so predictable, I'll buy everyone on this thread a pint if I turn out to be wrong.

let's wait and see. that's about 20 pints so far - and i'll have a pint of top shelf.

 

[Pickman's model]

This is shiate, I'm on £24k a year which is about the median average (not the mean which is distorted by a few wankers on £millions), the existing exception was £125K which is around the most I could hope to "afford", How many first time buyers can afford something like a £30-45K deposit and a £250K mortgage ? this is only going to benefit a small number of people who don't need it.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I thought that Audis were the least ostentatious and most sober of the big German three.

Most discreet of the fast big cars too, but the proles are prone to jealousy and have decreed that Audi drivers are fair game for a bit of blind prejudice. Which is fine, as long as they GET OUT OF MY FUCKING WAY.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I thought that Audis were the least ostentatious and most sober of the big German three.

It's a question of which font you would like them to use when they tattoo the word 'cunt' on your forehead.

 

[DotCommunist]

andrew niel just straight up calling mcdonnel a bullshitter then 'oh we've run out of time' halfway through answers. even handed as always beeb