Hammond's Autumn (Budget) Statement 2017, due Wednesday 22nd November.

[William of Walworth]

I think this needs a dedicated thread.

I'll put a link to this in a couple of the other Tory threads to make it easier to avoid too much duplicate discussion.

Any thoughts on what's most/least likely to happen be seen in Hammond's statement tomorrow/Wednesday 22nd?

 

[chilango]

Any thoughts on what's most/least likely to happen be seen in Hammond's statement tomorrow/Wednesday 22nd?

They’ll make the rich richer and the poor poorer?

 

[William of Walworth]

They’ll make the rich richer and the poor poorer?

True, but I was hoping for a bit more detail about all that to be honest

Guesses/predictions welcomed ....

And maybe some running commentary once the thing goes live ... I'll be at work so I could be looking forward, or not, to catching up later tomorrow with Urban take on Hammond's plans ...

 

[BemusedbyLife]

My predictions based on my complete lack of any inside knowledge

Police, Firemen, Nurses etc will be allowed payrises of over 1% (but not huge sums)

All other government workers will be stuck with a 1% pay cap

Benefits will remain frozen (if they had won by a big majority in June I think the cap would have been lowered but probably not now)

There will be some more money found from somewhere for the NHS, £350m a week if Hammond has a sense of humour (but he probably doesn't)

Booze and fags will go up but fuel duty will remain frozen

More money for and an extension of Help To Buy

Personal Allowances and Tax Thresholds will go up by more than usual.

 

[BemusedbyLife]

And one further prediction uncertainty over Brexit will be blamed for anything he thinks is unpopular

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Prediction; boring as fuck from Hammond. Fireworks to follow from May. Clarkson to say 'Power' at a lot.

 

[DotCommunist]

r Brexit will be blamed for anything he thinks is unpopular

lot of that about these days

 

[DotCommunist]

mcdonnel the machiavelli will issue an alternative budget that promises full automated luxury communism

 

[elbows]

Since my long-term job came to an end recently I suppose I will watch the bloody thing on the off chance that it helps me work out what to do (or not to do) next.

Not sure if I will do running commentary on it due to the chances I will slip into a semi-catatonic state whilst watching it.

 

[elbows]

Oh god they've made a joke about cough sweets, with May producing a packet of them. And now a joke about long economicky words.

 

[elbows]

Office of Budget Responsibility has revised down various forecasts.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Oh god they've made a joke about cough sweets, with May producing a packet of them. And now a joke about long economicky words.

Nurse, my sides.

Nurse?

Umm, doctor? I think the nurse has died of starvation. Also my sides hurt.

 

[Silas Loom]

And now a joke about long economicky words.

Ladbrokes had a book on the phrases he might use and he seems to be dropping them all in. Economicky was one.

If he's put the whole £800bn DEL & AME budget on an accumulator for all these, all the government's problems are solved.

 

[DotCommunist]

phils on fire with his Top Gear jokes

 

[not-bono-ever]

growth downgrade. like lolz as if we didnt know that

 

[Sue]

phils on fire with his Top Gear jokes

Feel like I'm really missing out now.

 

[elbows]

Extra 1% duty on rolling tobacco in addition to the other increases across all tobacco products.

 

[DotCommunist]

tax on the white lightening, safe.

 

[elbows]

Fuel duty frozen again, under-30's railcard stuff that was already mentioned the other day confirmed.

 

[elbows]

National living wage increased to £7.83

 

[cupid_stunt]

tax on the white lightening, safe.

All other alcohol duties frozen.

• Basic rate income tax threshold to rise to £11,850 in April next year.

• Higher rate threshold to rise to £46,350.

 

[cupid_stunt]

VAT threshold not being reduced.

 

[bimble]

“£600 premium for maths students in A levels’.. is that a commission for their teachers or a bride for students ?

 

[elbows]

“£600 premium for maths students in A levels’.. is that a commission for their teachers or a bride for students ?

I know maths students may have a reputation for being geeky but I don't think they take it so far as to marry money

 

[mojo pixy]

100% Council Tax premium on empty properties.

I bet there'll be loads of ways to get out of it though. ''Essential maintenance'' etc.

 

[DotCommunist]

“£600 premium for maths students in A levels’.. is that a commission for their teachers or a bride for students ?

you can't buy a wife for 600 quid

 

[DotCommunist]

Hammonds houses

 

[Silas Loom]

“£600 premium for maths students in A levels’.. is that a commission for their teachers or a bride for students ?

More cash for the school. Teachers won't see it. Incentivises them to strong-arm kids to choose maths rather than arts subjects.

 

[bimble]

Yep. it's cash for the schools, every time they add another person who agrees to do maths a level the school gets £600. I find that a bit worrying, as someone who was forced to do maths way beyond my capacity and got a U. Budget: More money for schools that attract 'extra' A-level maths students

 

[DotCommunist]

no magic bullet

anyone got house yet?