Hackney chitter-chatter &tc
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As well as having the pool and sports facilities the proposal is to have a GPs surgery, dentist etc. But no flats.
Council is likely to make a decision this Summer. The Community Trust will be sending a Depuation to a Council meeting to make their case.
BarryB
I heard about that, but NO flats?? I'd really like to think that was true, but i just don't trust the council not to argue eventually that they need to squeeze in a few to make the rest pay.
MysteryGuest
beyond boring and interesting
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
MysteryGuest
beyond boring and interesting
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
Some guy just got stabbed in the throat outside Primark
shit
meanwhile the chattering middle classes in church street are upset at the prospect of nandos coming to church street - the old vortex building
shit
meanwhile the chattering middle classes in church street are upset at the prospect of nandos coming to church street - the old vortex building
A facebook group has over 100 members
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
A facebook group has over 100 members
tossers - they didn't want starbucks either (which i agree with) but they don't have these sorts of protests against all the estate agents - there must be ten in the street
not that arsed about nandos really - seems a very snobby protest imo
Sir Belchalot
arenicola marina
Where is this Satchmo place? I work off Kingsland Rd and roam from Dalston Junction to the Tesco Metro and Evin every day and I've not seen it
Corner of Walford Rd iirc. Near there anyway.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
young boy, 18y/o, stabbed to death up stamford hill yesterday
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
Earlier on Thursday Devoe Roach, 17, died when he was stabbed close to his home in Stamford Hill, Stoke Newington, north London. Officers found Devoe lying on the pavement with a stab wound to the chest. He was taken to the Royal London Hospital where he died an hour later. Police believe Devoe was walking in Stamford Hill with a friend when he became involved in a row with the suspect. His attacker, described as being of Asian or Turkish appearance, aged between 18 and 22 and about 5ft 9in, stabbed him in the chest before running off along Olinda Road. Police have appealed for anyone who saw the argument to contact them.
shit
meanwhile the chattering middle classes in church street are upset at the prospect of nandos coming to church street - the old vortex building
sorry but .. wankers! their church street is totally fucking exclusive .. almost racist imho .. independent shops?? no .. more like expensive boutiques .. the record shop is gone and i reckon the bookshops haven't got long .. fresh and wild is a chain anyway .. wankers ..
and yes how many more kids will die around here and it means nothing to them .. they live in a total bubble
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
i suspect that if carluccios opened on church st,
there wouldn't be much of a protest
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
Well, I live here and know quite a lot of people here. And I'd agree, to a certain extent. Most people I know came from the provinces and are all escaping small town England. And yes, it is a little enclave where white, middle-class people come to breed. But so what. We all make our own little places. And London is a good city for doing that in. I disagree that Church Street is any more exclusive than any part of London with a particular group of people who know each other. If you want to critisize exclusiveness then look at some of the other communities in London.
5t3IIa
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I have to say that you are the wanker. I am part of the protest against Nando's mainly because I do not think that ANY huge chain should move in...including Carluccio's. I was part of the campaign against Starbucks as well. It will kill the small businesses. I moved to stokey 15 years ago because it was the only place I could afford living with my 8 year old daughter in one room for over a year. (partly in a b&b) I am not middle class. Nor are many of the people involved in this campaign. There are people from all walks of life, and from many different cultural backgrounds. As for being concerned about young people and crime..this is one of our major points. The Dalston Nandos has been linked to drug dealers approaching the young people who hang out there to the point that Nandos itself has had to put a sign in their window asking people not to sell or do drugs on the premises. Nando's also has one of the most appalling ad campaigns which depicted asylum seekers and women in derogatory ways. The Asylum TV Ads had to be pulled because there were so many complaints and because the advertising complaints commision banned it. Another ad depicting a mother as an addicted (to peri peri chicken) stripper had more than 200 complaints in the first few days. Nandos pulled it themselves eventually.
go to http://www.boycottnandos.com/pledge.aspx. This site has people who work there complaining about it. The company is not Portuguese but South African. I live in Stoke Newington because I ended up here in a bed in breakfast while working 45 hours a week in a crap job as I could not afford the rents. I stayed because I got support from people. I have climbed my way out of a very dyer situation. I have grown to love it here and I have given loads back to the community working with teenagers on housing estates teaching them film making...winning awards against big companies I do not need to apologize for being white thank you.
go to http://www.boycottnandos.com/pledge.aspx. This site has people who work there complaining about it. The company is not Portuguese but South African. I live in Stoke Newington because I ended up here in a bed in breakfast while working 45 hours a week in a crap job as I could not afford the rents. I stayed because I got support from people. I have climbed my way out of a very dyer situation. I have grown to love it here and I have given loads back to the community working with teenagers on housing estates teaching them film making...winning awards against big companies I do not need to apologize for being white thank you.
Treacle Toes
Time
You've made some good points there, shame you spoilt it by calling someone a wanker.
So you are not against large capitalist chain stores invading Church street then, like fresh and wild say?
It must be nice to have fresh/organic food on your doorstep....even nicer when you can afford it.
Btw...no one was suggesting you need apologise for being White.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
funnily enough. this wanker does like church street, i go up there most weekends, and i'm sorry but it does feel like an ugly middle class campaign and i say that as a white middle class male, and i've lived in hackney since 93, and it seems all about one little street, if nandos opened up where woolies is (another chain) around the corner from the bottom of church street, there wouldn't be this campaign - if nandos does open on church street, i doubt i would go anyway, so in a way i would be supporting the boycott by default, because i simply don't go to nandos
) around the corner from the bottom of church street, there wouldn't be this campaign - if nandos does open on church street, i doubt i would go anyway, so in a way i would be supporting the boycott by default, because i simply don't go to nandoslighterthief
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Leaving Church Street aside for a moment, does anyone know places where the local Polish community in Hackney meet? I do some voluntary work and we are actively trying to recruit people who can speak Polish, so I thought I might stick a few flyers up. I know there is a Polish deli on Balls Pond Road, and I'll google and look at Comis on the Hackney website, but anyone else have any good local suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
I dont usually call people wankers but I was called one so thought I would return the favour. Yes childish I know. It made me so angry because people are ranting and calling other people middle class wankers when they have no idea who they are talking about. A young guy came up to me the other day (he was black) and said 'let me sign it. (the petition)..we really don't need another big chain." THEN he proceeded to tell me that he had a small shop just off church street and the rent is £300! a week which they are finding extremely difficult/impossible to keep up with. Any more raising of rents/leases will cost local small business out. Nandos has paid a HUGE premium and is setting a precedent for other property owners to raise rents/lease.
As for Fresh and Wild...I had no idea it was moving in as it happened so fast so I had no way of protesting. I'm not sure if I would have or not. There are a few chains on Church Street and loads on Stoke Newington High Street. They have been there forever and so I never had a chance to fight these coming in. The only one I remember was Kentucky Fried Chicken which I did try and fight and complain about. Tesco has opened 2 small tescos in Stoke Newington lately and one in Newington green. These were done so quietly and suddenly that no one could protest. The fact that people in stokey are committed and organized enough to fight is a good thing. Thanks for your replies. I do shop there for only a few items that I have found to be cheaper than other shops or simply not available in the small shops...but not much as I can't afford it! You would be surprised that some things are cheaper. Though you have to look hard.
As for Fresh and Wild...I had no idea it was moving in as it happened so fast so I had no way of protesting. I'm not sure if I would have or not. There are a few chains on Church Street and loads on Stoke Newington High Street. They have been there forever and so I never had a chance to fight these coming in. The only one I remember was Kentucky Fried Chicken which I did try and fight and complain about. Tesco has opened 2 small tescos in Stoke Newington lately and one in Newington green. These were done so quietly and suddenly that no one could protest. The fact that people in stokey are committed and organized enough to fight is a good thing. Thanks for your replies. I do shop there for only a few items that I have found to be cheaper than other shops or simply not available in the small shops...but not much as I can't afford it! You would be surprised that some things are cheaper. Though you have to look hard.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
no one actually called you a wanker btw, a generic term "wankers" was used (not by me) about your protest, and about the impression it gives of cozy middleclass people living in stoke newington complaining about stuff which isn't that important, nandos is a bit of a side issue tbh
i agree on the rents btw, they have shot up for commerical units making it impossible for the independent trade people you want to open on church street...
btw, someone told me that Spence, the bakery is opening a third shop on church street, i presume that this is a good thing? that there will not be a protest group about this since it "fits in"?
i agree on the rents btw, they have shot up for commerical units making it impossible for the independent trade people you want to open on church street...
btw, someone told me that Spence, the bakery is opening a third shop on church street, i presume that this is a good thing? that there will not be a protest group about this since it "fits in"?
Treacle Toes
Time
What would you say was a significant factor in the increase of rents in that area Marty?
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
not sure tbh, can only guess at greedy landlords, they've seen the area improve and want for their properties, no idea how the second hand book shops survive, or that instrument shop that always seems empty, still plenty of shops for the yummy mummy tribe
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