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Jazzz said:
I like the work F&W does - money paid to them largely goes towards ethical practises. The shop has a nice feel. It is a pleasant place to be. I shop in F&W maybe once a week. I like it. I need my organic vegetables and this is where they are. I know people that work there and they are close friends. There's a load of stuff that you will have trouble finding elsewhere. I have my complaints about them for sure but this is all true. As evil chains go, it's pretty unevil. 6 branches in the country. And it's already here.

There is a Nando's in Dalston which I have never visited. In fact I've never visited a Nando's and wouldn't wish to. I see no saving features for it. It's just a chicken restaurant chain. They have 175 branches in the UK. I am largely vegetarian and will rarely eat chicken. Are their chickens organic or free-range? No.
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You make some fair points Jazz but just because you need organic food doesn't mean everybody else does.

F and W isn't that cheap either, and yes, I know the shop well and also know people who work there....In fact, I know how much they take on an average weekend too and it's a lot of money.

Just because you don't want a Nandos doesn't mean it should not be there.

I've never been to Nandos and don't have the desire to but I don't care either way, people want cheap peri peri chicken, let them have it. People want overpriced organic stuff, let them have it.:)

I have the feeling for every person opposed to Nandos in Stokey there are loads more who would eat there. Why don't their opinions count?
Mix and match innit, reflect the local community, not just one part of it.
 
Well this is the thing - absolutely no-one on this thread has suggested they want to go to Nando's. So why wish it on us? I love the feel of Church St. - it's like a village out of London, in a way. This is because there is none of the usual chain crap, which elsewhere on these boards posters don't seem to like very much. Yes F&W may have a foot in the door but that doesn't mean it's going to be a good thing to have Nando's, McDonald's, KFC etc as well! :)
 
I just discovered a rival group on facebook
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=9920014190

Name: Church Street needs Nandos!!!
Type: Common Interest - Food & Drink
Description: Tired of having to take out a mortgage to buy a lukewarm, grudgingly served de-caf skinny latte and slice of organic carrot cake?

Sick of the dominance of the smug, earnest middle-class mums and their tri-wheeled pushchairs full of mewling cabbages with names like Tallulah and Bathsheba (and that's just the boys) who'll still be on the breast at 14?

Bored of bran muffins and sanctimony?

Would you like to, I dunno, buy some chicken that's not only tasty and delicious but fit for human consumption?

Wake up and smell what you're shovelling Stoke Newington!

You're not a village!

You haven't been a village since Edgar Allan Poe went to school round the corner!

You want village life move to Suffolk where in-breeding is just family planning!

Quit whining about preserving the village atmosphere and embrace change.

I'm glad the Vortex is gone, one less venue in the world where scatting can break out, I say.

Hurrah for Nandos!

Tasty, spicy affordable chicken, hot nuts and bottomless Coke. Can it get any better?

Now, if only they'd open a Caffe Nero as well I could buy a decent coffee on a Saturday...
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Just for fun, a bit of competition never did any harm eh?;)
 
Jazzz said:
Well this is the thing - absolutely no-one on this thread has suggested they want to go to Nando's. So why wish it on us? I love the feel of Church St. - it's like a village out of London, in a way. This is because there is none of the usual chain crap, which elsewhere on these boards posters don't seem to like very much. Yes F&W may have a foot in the door but that doesn't mean it's going to be a good thing to have Nando's, McDonald's, KFC etc as well! :)
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I love Nando's, as do other posters on these boards. The fact that its main customer base doesn't consist of middle class curtain twitchers and sanctimonious keyboard warriors shouldn't work against them. All they'll need to do to show their attraction is to point to the number of successfully opened Nandos - their rapid expansion rate tells you all you need to know.

Village out of London my arse, It's a strip of grey concrete in the main, with as many fuckawful chain pubs served industrialoburger slop as the average provincial town. The fact that Nandos is the wrong sort of chain attracting the wrong sort of customers - ie it''s not an upmarket chain like Carlucchios or F&W - is the root of the problem. Dressing the prejudice up as some kind of protest against the creeping homogenity of the British high street is the worst kind of sanctimonious, delusional drivel.
 
tarannau said:
I love Nando's, as do other posters on these boards. The fact that its main customer base doesn't consist of middle class curtain twitchers and sanctimonious keyboard warriors shouldn't work against them. All they'll need to do to show their attraction is to point to the number of successfully opened Nandos - their rapid expansion rate tells you all you need to know.
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I'm not BME ( :rolleyes: ), and I love their Sweet Potato Mash... :D
 
durruti02 said:
because church street used to be a mainly west indian street (as was stoekk newington) 25 years ago
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Funny I don't remember this & I've lived in the area since 1981. Used to love the area when it was run-down but always had a good mix of races & had a good community feel. Have fond memories of the amount of corrugated iron around the area but it never felt unsafe.
Haven't liked Church St for years as I can't stand the yuppies. Roll on the next recession. :D
 
tarannau said:
Village out of London my arse, It's a strip of grey concrete in the main, with as many fuckawful chain pubs served industrialoburger slop as the average provincial town.
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I have no axe to grind either way about Stoke Newington, but IME that is in no sense an accurate description of the area.
 
Paulie Tandoori said:
I know a couple of people involved in that. So i could ask them but Serious Q - given that its being run as an exclusive woman-only space, do they want any blokes to turn up for the baliff resistance?
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Everyone is welcome to come and resist the eviction, though the gender policy inside the space remains the same. People will be needed in and outside the building, so supportive men would be great.
 
Paulie Tandoori said:
Fair dos. Is the eviction tomorrow cos there's nowt on the blog linked to now (and i'm sure there was earlier on)??
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Eviction foiled :cool: For now, anyway.

Also, the Hackney Social Centre on Lower Clapton Road is up for eviction on Monday morning, they're asking for people to be there at 9.30am.
 
Thora said:
Eviction foiled :cool: For now, anyway.

Also, the Hackney Social Centre on Lower Clapton Road is up for eviction on Monday morning, they're asking for people to be there at 9.30am.
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Good news. I was gonna cycle by on my way into work but wet and & cold so i lunched it :oops:

[/p/t anarcho-mode]
 
Sir Belchalot said:
Funny I don't remember this & I've lived in the area since 1981. Used to love the area when it was run-down but always had a good mix of races & had a good community feel. Have fond memories of the amount of corrugated iron around the area but it never felt unsafe.
Haven't liked Church St for years as I can't stand the yuppies. Roll on the next recession. :D
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yes was good mix but stokey was famous for being 'west indian' .. maybe that did not mean majority .. i know a few people who as teenagers wouldn't go there as they were white and would get a smack .. and someone who started a semi famous 'white (london fields) v black (stokey) riot' ( though was not racial just gangs being gangs .. ) .. think of all the record shops and bardbers that have gone .. even Gladdy had to get out last year .. he was the last .. but generally you may be right .. but we all agree the yuppies have fucked it ..
 
durruti02 said:
yes was good mix but stokey was famous for being 'west indian'
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Can't remember this either. The only part of Stoke Newington that I can think of that was predominately West Indian was the area around Wordsworth Road/Butterfield Green which is practically in Dalston anyway. Church St certainly wasn't.
 
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