Gordon Ramsey

[Streathamite]

one thing to remember; a pro kitchen (especially at the very high level Ramsay operates) is a VERY stress-filled, demanding, fast-moving sorta place, and only the dedicted hard cases survive.
secondly, every one I know in catering would either LOVE to work for him, or has done and wants to again, desperately. Yup, he's a driving, perfectionist maniac, but his knowledge and skill is awesome. And mostly he works with people he handpicks-so they know enough of what they're doing to decode the shouts.
And - having eaten at one of his joints - I can happily testify to the quality of the end product.

 

[Snorkelboy]

Brilliance does not excuse bullying.

Having said that - having watched one the other day he's not nearly as bad as he used to be.

 

[sarcastic food]

Its' the bullying that I can't stand. Hey you know me and food I'll eat anything and I hate the fact that people are so fussy about food. It really gets me.. particularly because the chefs seem to let the customers demand so much.

My mate has done maintainence work in the Ramsey restaurants and yes the staff really do admire him. I do find the programme interesting... but would never let someone talked to me like that about food.

IT'S FOOD DAMN IT.. ENJOY IT EVERYONE AND STOP BEING SO ANAL.

 

[Hollis]

Brilliance does not excuse bullying.

I dunno.. it depends what exactly you mean by bullying. I think putting the pressure on people, can be justified - if you think someone's not getting the best out themselves or is being lazy/overreliant on you - and it seems with the people often respect that. Wilful bullying for the sake of it, is something different.

 

[Snorkelboy]

I dunno.. it depends what exactly you mean by bullying. I think putting the pressure on people, can be justified - if you think someone's not getting the best out themselves or is being lazy/overreliant on you - and it seems with the people often respect that. Wilful bullying for the sake of it, is something different.

Absolutely.

The behaviour I saw on the program I watched was wilfull bullying, screaming shut up, shut up, shut up at someone while wagging your finger in their face is bullying.

 

[sarcastic food]

And being treated like that on TV.... urgh I'd die or put someones head in the fridge. Saying that.. how could they cook all that deep fried stuff...

 

[Snorkelboy]

And being treated like that on TV.... urgh I'd die or put someones head in the fridge. Saying that.. how could they cook all that deep fried stuff...

Actually i was talking about the Welsh one the other week - did he do it agin last night then?

 

[sarcastic food]

Actually i was talking about the Welsh one the other week - did he do it agin last night then?

IN fact he wasn't too bad. The one the weak before.. I just felt sorry for the others. He did give some good tips, simple but good. Then again he's done it for years.

 

[Hollis]

Actually i was talking about the Welsh one the other week - did he do it agin last night then?

Yeah.. but then the guy in question was meant to be quite mouthy himself.. I dunno.. its difficult to tell what exactly's going on, the context etc in these prorgrammes.

 

[Idaho]

The behaviour I saw on the program I watched was wilfull bullying, screaming shut up, shut up, shut up at someone while wagging your finger in their face is bullying.

I wouldn't want to be treated that way. But then I don't expect to find myself working in a failing restaurant and not knowing wha thte hell I am doing. Sometimes if you are giving instructions you need to strong. Some people need to be told to shut up - and if they don't shut up they need to be told again.

There is nothing wrong with being tough from time to time. Provided you give plenty of carrots out, and you use it sparingly - the stick is a fair instrument. Especially in a situation where a place that desperately needs organising and everyone is bumbling along in their own little ruts.

 

[companero seb]

mates, i've got a friend working for ramsey, and he says it's fucked up all ends ! he's gotta work 14hrs a day, double-shifts that is... and that 5 days a fuckin' week !!! paid bollocks too ! somethin' like £200/week.

call it modern exploitation, i do !

the food is good though, and pricey too.

so: shit money for his staff, great money for ramsey and his addicted noose !

cño

 

[Snorkelboy]

I wouldn't want to be treated that way. But then I don't expect to find myself working in a failing restaurant and not knowing wha thte hell I am doing. Sometimes if you are giving instructions you need to strong. Some people need to be told to shut up - and if they don't shut up they need to be told again.

There is nothing wrong with being tough from time to time. Provided you give plenty of carrots out, and you use it sparingly - the stick is a fair instrument. Especially in a situation where a place that desperately needs organising and everyone is bumbling along in their own little ruts.

It's perfectly possible (and necessary) to be tough and strong with staff without being bullying.

TBH my opinion of him was formed by previous stuff I've seen where he was far more aggressive than he is on these programs, and interviews I've seen/read where other unpleasant facets of his character have come to light.

 

[Granter]

the guy wasn't fired, it said that he 'left' after the programme finished.

last nite was great - that purple paint job, euwwwwwwww! why on earth did they think that was a good idea

but apparently, according to the guy, it looks great at night with the purple lights

I do wonder where some folk get the money and the nerve to go into business like that when they seem so clueless

 

[tim]

he got someone else fired last night.

but this time, i think the sacking was necessary - serving up deep fried everything, sauces out of bottles, and the title 'executive chef'

wot a plank.

I've eaten in that place, albeit about 3 years ago in its Berni Inn days. It really was awful. I was with my mother, a 1970's steakhouse enthusiast, and she still moans about it every time she's been anywhere near Esher.

 

[sarcastic food]

I've eaten in that place, albeit about 3 years ago in its Berni Inn days. It really was awful. I was with my mother, a 1970's steakhouse enthusiast, and she still moans about it every time she's been anywhere near Esher.

Tee hee.

 

[Hollis]

I do wonder where some folk get the money and the nerve to go into business like that when they seem so clueless

Well, I guess a by-product of global capitalism is the 'second generation rich kid'.. Hahaha.. my boss.. if he weren't Chief Executive, I don' think there's a job he could do here. (IYSWIM).

 

[sparkling]

Aaahhhh what am I going to watch on Tuesday nights from now on.

 

[bertifrew]

didn't he used to play for glasgow rangers?....Well that explanes his nasty disposition.........I've never met a Ranger i've liked.

 

[Orang Utan]

Typical ignorant idiotic statement from Berti there!

 

[Dubversion]

Typical ignorant idiotic statement from Berti there!

but remember - berti ISN'T a bigot. he said so, so it must be true..

 

[Wolfie]

a day late as usual I've just seen the latest episode of the sweary chef show

great television! it has goodies, badies, a race against time and a great anti-hero - what more could you want from an hour's entertainment on a weekday evening?

 

[pilchardman]

OK, I finally worked it out. Ramsay only appears reasonable to some people because you're comparing him with idiots like the "executive chef" in the last episode. Or the purple-loving duo who owned the place.

Next to them, Norman Tebbit would start to look (comparatively) lovable.

 

[Orang Utan]

He seems like a reasonable fella to the people who have extensive experience in the restaurant business - I look back on my days of working with kitchen tyrants fondly. I recall my days in retail, working with more likable, but effete and duplicitous, middle management types a lot less fondly.

I was gonna edit this to make grammatical sense, but I can't be arsed.

 

[Orang Utan]

You can see why I didn't last long in the restaurant business. No attention to detail.

 

[pilchardman]

Subordinate clauses, eh? What a bugger.

I find that - if the circumstances allow - dashes make useful parenthesis; semicolons make useful conjunctions.

 

[Wolfie]

OK, I finally worked it out. Ramsay only appears reasonable to some people because you're comparing him with idiots like the "executive chef" in the last episode. Or the purple-loving duo who owned the place.

Next to them, Norman Tebbit would start to look (comparatively) lovable.

no!
he's un-reasonable!
reason has nothing to do with it, it would hardly be entertaining if he was reasonable would it?
It would be like criticising Clint Eastwood for painting the town red in High Plains Drifter (or which ever one it is) - I say Clint that's hardly reasonable is it?

 

[pilchardman]

it would hardly be entertaining if he was reasonable would it?

I know. I watched avidly.

I was just trying to explain to myself why people (on here) seem to like or at least grudgingly admire him.

 

[Wolfie]

oh well - there's no accounting for people "on here" - they're a bunch of ne'er do wells and social misfits - they seem to take to or take against people for all sorts of strange, random reasons - best not to try and explain it to one's self IME

 

[Orang Utan]

Subordinate clauses, eh? What a bugger.

I find that - if the circumstances allow - dashes make useful parenthesis; semicolons make useful conjunctions.

whtvr

 

[pilchardman]

whtvr

Don't get me started on the damage twtty txt tlk is doing to grammar...