Ghostbusters reboot
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mentalchik
"I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit."
You're right. A 'PC remake' with a dubstep remix of the original tune.Mind you, I wouldn't bother with the original again either.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
It was one of the things i was going to point out as awful but well they were copying from the original.
It needs a street wise / straight man but they could have been white and the engineer could have been black. Would have been better I agree.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
camouflage
gaslit at scale.
slimer
bet the cultural mraists will be shitting a brick on the gender reversal here.
The manosphere's gonna be pissed.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
From IMDB :
On the topicaul Feig - I don't think it's fair for him to call the Ghostbusters criticism mysoginistic
My criticism isn't based on an all-female cast. It has to do with the fact that it's being made by a talentless hack like Paul Feig.
On the topic
aul Feig - I don't think it's fair for him to call the Ghostbusters criticism mysoginisticMy criticism isn't based on an all-female cast. It has to do with the fact that it's being made by a talentless hack like Paul Feig.
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Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
From IMDB :
On the topic
My criticism isn't based on an all-female cast. It has to do with the fact that it's being made by a talentless hack like Paul Feig.
MISANDRY!
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
It's a by-committee film, dreamed up by money-men; no different from 99% of multiplex films really. I'd settle for a good film rather than one that ticks the diversity boxes (or has an updated dubstep theme tune... or is overflowing with special effects... or is a remake/reboot). If people think this is revolutionary, they're easily pleased IMO. If you want to see strong female characters (or just better written characters generally), watch more indie films. More Winter's Bone, less Hunger Games, please.
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camouflage
gaslit at scale.
I have a problem with this, the mug should be labelled Misogynist Fuckwit Tears. It's not like you get a complementary bag of gynophobia with yer cock an balls or something.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
The all female lead cast is a great idea and i think it came about something like this:
Seen all these campaigns to encourage women to be scientists. You know the This is what a woman scientist looks like memes n shit.
Yeah.
Why don't why do a film with women scientists.
Sure.
But not the sexy, removes her glasses and releases her hair super model scientist like in The Saint and shit like that.
Normal every day women?
Yeah.
It will have to be a comedy then. (obviously this is where the idea goes all wrong)
Obvs!
Comedy with scientists, how about Ghostbusters?
Perfect. The people moaning about us changing a beloved original can be shouted down as misogynists which will get us extra publicity. Win win.
Lets do it.
Seen all these campaigns to encourage women to be scientists. You know the This is what a woman scientist looks like memes n shit.
Yeah.
Why don't why do a film with women scientists.
Sure.
But not the sexy, removes her glasses and releases her hair super model scientist like in The Saint and shit like that.
Normal every day women?
Yeah.
It will have to be a comedy then. (obviously this is where the idea goes all wrong)
Obvs!
Comedy with scientists, how about Ghostbusters?
Perfect. The people moaning about us changing a beloved original can be shouted down as misogynists which will get us extra publicity. Win win.
Lets do it.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
Sigourney Weaver, Bill Murray and Dan Aykroyd were great in it.
Its the only film that Rick Moranis is bearable in which must prove some sort of genius.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Gromit
International Man of Misery
If i had to cast this remake using their female scientist idea i'd go with:
Directors: Cohen Brothers
Amy Schumer - The wacky one
Isla Fisher - The engineer
Wanda Sykes - The physicist
Rebel Wilson = The street smart one.
Now that might have been a good Ghostbusters reboot.
Directors: Cohen Brothers
Amy Schumer - The wacky one
Isla Fisher - The engineer
Wanda Sykes - The physicist
Rebel Wilson = The street smart one.
Now that might have been a good Ghostbusters reboot.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
That looks absolutely awful
Did you post without reading the rest of the thread and realising that you aren't allowed to say that?
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
I don't really care about the inevitable gender arguments. It just looks awful.
Reno
The In Kraut
Gromit
International Man of Misery
Come on. Rick Moranis is pretty fucking dreadful*. That he doesn't drag Ghostbusters into the dirt simply by being in it is practically a miracle.I have absolutely no doubt that this is what genius would look like to you.
* I suspect The Stone Cutters made him a star.
Reno
The In Kraut
He gave exactly the same performance in every film, so not sure how you can pick one. I didn't mind him, he was the nerd du jour. I like Little Shop of Horrors, far prefer it to Ghostbusters and he was fine in that.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
His winiest performance of all. I'd rather be shoot in the head than watch it.
Reno
The In Kraut
I'd be happy to oblige.
spanglechick
High Empress of Dressing Up
Do you mean, perchance "not all men..." ?
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
Moranis is amazing in Ghostbusters - that one take apartment shot where he adlibs all the insults is great. And sniffing along Harold Ramis arm when he's Vinz Clortho...hahahahaha.
The possibility that Louis Tully would have been played by John Candy is raised in the directors commentary and always makes think how bad that could have gone, apparently he wanted him to be German.
Plus him and Annie Potts in the second one,
"Alright, who brought the dog?"
ferrelhadley
There is no love between us anymore.
Leslie Jones' character looks like it was written in 1985, the "black seal of cool". A minor or at least supporting black person\s whos primary role in the film is to provide some streetwise muscle and endorse the zany antics of the white middle class persons faux rebelliousness with a thumbs up of "black cool". The band supporting Marty McFly in Back to the Future, the nameless young men in the Afro Americans fraternity "Lamda" in Revenge of the Nerds, the role of Winston in the original Ghost Busters. Fill your boots thinking of others.
Murph and Brand in Interstellar, Furiosa in Road Fury, Stone in Gravity are all great examples of really intelligent and courageous people who are driven with a sense of their own agency. With the exception of Brand as a love interest you could have cast them as men and only needed minor dialogue changes. Their "womanhood" is a texture on their character like a regional identity it is not the primary reason for the existence of the character. This trailer on the other hand seems to be labouring the idea of a female "quantum physicist" here used as lazy shorthand for "brainy".
Its selling "diversity" not embracing it. It is flogging an idea of being about "feminism" as a marketing tool while being tone deaf to the classist and possibly mildly racist stereotyping of the poor, non white woman in an out of date role.
And with the exception of Dread and maybe Batman, reboots are shite.
Murph and Brand in Interstellar, Furiosa in Road Fury, Stone in Gravity are all great examples of really intelligent and courageous people who are driven with a sense of their own agency. With the exception of Brand as a love interest you could have cast them as men and only needed minor dialogue changes. Their "womanhood" is a texture on their character like a regional identity it is not the primary reason for the existence of the character. This trailer on the other hand seems to be labouring the idea of a female "quantum physicist" here used as lazy shorthand for "brainy".
Its selling "diversity" not embracing it. It is flogging an idea of being about "feminism" as a marketing tool while being tone deaf to the classist and possibly mildly racist stereotyping of the poor, non white woman in an out of date role.
And with the exception of Dread and maybe Batman, reboots are shite.
Reno
The In Kraut
Lots of Internet "think pieces" have pointed out that the female characters in Mad Max and Interstellar were commendable and that's great, but that doesn't mean the female leads in a slapstic fantasy have to be "really intelligent and courageous people who are driven with a sense of their own agency". They should be just as daft as the blokes were in the original.
These days trailers get picked to pieces and analysed frame by frame and after two minutes people have already made up their mind that the film is shit and then they go and see it anyway. Apart from the lack of Bill Murray, the best thing about the original, this doesn't look that much worse. It's really not something I can get all purist about.
These days trailers get picked to pieces and analysed frame by frame and after two minutes people have already made up their mind that the film is shit and then they go and see it anyway. Apart from the lack of Bill Murray, the best thing about the original, this doesn't look that much worse. It's really not something I can get all purist about.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
It's about taking a wider view of cinema. I made an edit up this thread about Hunger Games vs Winter's Bone. Hunger Games was celebrated for its heroine, while few people know Winter's Bone (pretty much the reason J Law was cast in Hunger Games). Hunger Games may seem like some sort of milestone feminist action film, but it's really just shallow rubbish compared to Winter's Bone. Diversity without quality doesn't mean much in my book. People aren't slagging off Ghostbusters (already!) due to its diversity, but rather because they can see through its game.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
dredd. Interesting two choices there speer
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