Gerry Adams exposed , his lies demolished at brothers rape trial

[LiamO]

what about the ones that vote for Fianna Fail, Fine Gael, Labour, Progressive Democrats, Jackie Healy Rae , Michael Lowry, SDLP etc in their hundreds of thousands ..or millions.. ? Cunts dupes and idiots or generally decent normal people who have poor political choices to choose from ?

How many of those voters happily call themselves 'Republicans'? Erm none.

How many SF voters do? nearly all of them.

So obviously I was talking about republican voters. But you already knew that, didn't you? before you posted your diversionary tosh. Quite clever, but I'm getting the hang of this now.

 

[Casually Red]

How many of those voters happily call themselves 'Republicans'? Erm none.

How many SF voters do? nearly all of them.

So obviously I was talking about republican voters. But you already knew that, didn't you? before you posted your diversionary tosh. Quite clever, but I'm getting the hang of this now.

I wasnt aware that it was only their votes that counted or they had any specific superiority to their fellow citizens . The people they vote for support the same institutions,the same constitutional arrangements, the same police forces, the same treaties asl all the other constituional nationalist parties . I dont view any of these parties as in anyway politically different to a degree worth bothering about, just some different personalities .But if you want to take it that way thats up to yourself .

Just looking at the telly now and Adams problem seems to be he cant get out now. Willy Frazer has turned up outslde Antrim barracks with a mob, that appears to have grown . And now theyre having a sit down protest with riot cops, armoured cars and all sorts.

cops have smuggled him out the back door

 

[Casually Red]

Gerry is free !! rejoice !!! the dark clouds have lifted, justice has triumphed !! the securocrats are on the run

 

[Pickman's model]

Gerry is free !! rejoice !!! the dark clouds have lifted, justice has triumphed !! the securocrats are on the run

hurrah!

 

[Casually Red]

The hole he's in is a direct result of dissidents naming him as an accomplice in actions in which they themselves took part. Price admitted that her statements were an act of revenge - 'score settling'. You yourself, cannot contain your glee.

this is complete bollocks anyway . Price never even named Adams as responsible for McConvilles killing in the Boston tapes, thats a myth thats been proven false. Furthermore those tapes are just hearsay and completely inadmissable in court. The cops certainly didnt need Dolours Price to tell them that Gerry Adams was in charge of the provos in the lower falls when Jean McConville was executed.

This recent chain of events began with Gerry Adams issuing a public statement prior to an election that he was fully prepared to meet the PSNI and discuss the McConville killing . The cops then took him up on his very public offer made through the media, prior to an election . And off he went to meet them. He should never have made that offer in the first place or gone to the barracks if he didnt want to be questioned about it . Its looking more and more like a PR stunt gone badly wrong. That he put it up to them and they then put it up to him .

And according to Gerry Kelly speaking to the BBC the main stuff theyve been quizzing him on isnt even the Boston College tapes but stuff in his own books that hes been writing about himself for the past 30 years.

 

[Casually Red]

hurrah!

I was just looking at all the media with their cameras focussed on the gate of Antrim barracks, waiting patiently for the great leader to make his long walk to freedom . I was reminded of that fateful morn when Mandela himself made that long walk, and the cameras waiting for him . The world waiting patiently to catch a glimpse of the great man of peace, the visionary of international stature. The personification of struggle and freedom .

And then Willy Frazer loomed into view, with the madness hanging out of him . Pointing at someone and shouting . His mates behind him with their union jacks going yeeooowww

Dignity is not here, I reflected.

 

[Casually Red]

Adams to be freed without charge. Wonder who he squealed on?

theyve passed a file to the DPP office. Dumped it in their lap .

 

[Casually Red]

Another great post - creating and demolishing your very own strawman. Top class.

no it was definitely Mr Reilly who created the strawman of the dissidents being responsible, on a number of occasions . I then asked him repeatedly to name names. He eventually did,bizarrely including me in the dissident plot on the evidence of me thinking this farce is hilarious . I responded in turn that nobody he named were members of any republican group, that they were private citizens responsible for their own actions . And that I wasnt connected to any of them either. My amusement simply isnt evidence of an overarching dissident conspiracy, as was clearly claimed.

Its definitely Mr Reillys strawman.

 

[Pickman's model]

I was just looking at all the media with their cameras focussed on the gate of Antrim barracks, waiting patiently for the great leader to make his long walk to freedom . I was reminded of that fateful morn when Mandela himself made that long walk, and the cameras waiting for him . The world waiting patiently to catch a glimpse of the great man of peace, the visionary of international stature. The personification of struggle and freedom .

And then Willy Frazer loomed into view, with the madness hanging out of him . Pointing at someone and shouting . His mates behind him with their union jacks going yeeooowww

Dignity is not here, I reflected.

I went to see a legend just the other night
At the Yankee Stadium, underneath the light.
I heard a man speaking after years and years in jail.

His name it was Mandela and he came to tell his tale.
The crowd they cheered him loudly, ah, but then the silence fell
As he spoke about the hard years in a South African cell.
And though he was free, his heart was feelin' the pain,

For his country and his people were still a part of that shame.
He said he hoped that we would join him and walk down freedom's path,
And these roads would be the hardest, oh, but they would be the last.
And to join our hands together so that we might be as one,

And to bring ourselves to the cause so his battle could be won.
I went home to bed that evening, went to sleep and I had a dream.
I was standing in the pouring rain, in an Irish field of green.
And all around the headstones were the martyrs of the past.

I stood there in silence, and they spoke to me at last.
Gerry Adams is my name and I spent a weekend in a cell...

 

[likesfish]

theyve passed a file to the DPP office. Dumped it in their lap .

I feel sorry for the poor sod who gets that tomorrow morning talkabout not wanting to open the morning mail

 

[Casually Red]

i was under the impression that bernadette mcaliskey, nee devlin, was well-known as a republican. certainly she seemed to be when i saw her at the green ink irish bookfair in london at some point in, i think, the late 90s when she gave a speech on why she was a republican.

Bernadette Devlin has completely retired from republican politics and commenatary. She confines herself to local community issues, helping the disadvantaged. When I said republican I meant as in republican spokesperson or someone identfiable with a republican organisation, ex prisoner, IRA veteran etc. Not a personal political opinion . That a great many people have regardless of their affiliation or profile.

 

[Pickman's model]

Bernadette Devlin has completely retired from republican politics and commenatary. She confines herself to local community issues, helping the disadvantaged. When I said republican I meant as in republican spokesperson or someone identfiable with a republican organisation, ex prisoner, IRA veteran etc. Not a personal political opinion . That a great many people have regardless of their affiliation or profile.

cheers for the clarification

 

[Casually Red]

I feel sorry for the poor sod who gets that tomorrow morning talkabout not wanting to open the morning mail

Certainly not Barra McGrory .

 

[Pickman's model]

Certainly not Barra McGrory .

yeh he'll be staying well away from any suspicious packages

 

[Casually Red]

cheers for the clarification

one issue is every time she takes a public stance on republican issues they keep arresting her daughter and threatening to extradite her to Germany . Which is of course political policing , but not of the kind that bothers the great leader . Who continues to advocate support for it regardless.

 

[Pickman's model]

one issue is every time she takes a public stance on republican issues they keep arresting her daughter and threatening to extradite her to Germany . Which is of course political policing , but not of the kind that bothers the great leader . Who continues to advocate support for it regardless.

 

[Casually Red]

yeh he'll be staying well away from any suspicious packages

and suspicious beards

 

[Pickman's model]

and suspicious beards

i wonder how far adams' career would have progressed if he'd remained clean shaven

 

[RedDragon]

How about a simultaneous translation Gerry, or are you just labouring a point?

 

[Casually Red]

this is great stuff

im just listening to him on the telly now. Hes after comparing himself to Bobby Sands, while sitting in his cell reflecting on the hungerstrikes.

 

[N_igma]

Anyone got an extra palm for my face?

 

[Pickman's model]

this is great stuff

im just listening to him on the telly now. Hes after comparing himself to Bobby Sands, while sitting in his cell reflecting on the hungerstrikes.

this would be the same gerry adams who let the hunger strikers die i suppose.

afaics adams tramped down the dirt on sands' grave as the foundation of his political career.

 

[Pickman's model]

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[Casually Red]

this would be the same gerry adams who let the hunger strikers die i suppose.

afaics adams tramped down the dirt on sands' grave as the foundation of his political career.

his spin doctors put it about Bobby Sands started the peace process, dying to get Sinn Fein votes. Absolutely disgusting stuff . But sadly a lot of people believe it today thanks to Adams .
Sands died to uphold a crucial principle, that it was the occupation which was a crime against the Irish people and not resistance to it . Thats why many people who supported neither the IRA nor Sinn Fein supported Sands. On that national principle. Because if Sands was successfully criminalised, even if they disagreed with his methods, then so was everyone who went before him . The national struggle would simply be a crime.

When they signed up to those treaties they effectively danced on his grave. And a lot of others.

 

[Casually Red]

heres another belter

 

[Pickman's model]

heres another belter

i like the way it looks like fidel castro is listening to gerry's words of wisdom

but perhaps it would have been better if the other figures on the poster were a) alive and b) still relevant

 

[Casually Red]

anyways the upshot of his interview. He still fully supports the PSNI and all the other British structures and encourages all his supporters to do likewise. However hes hinting very heavily that the Boston College project is a nefarious British intelligence plot . Which of course logically means by extension the people behind it, who he names..MacIntryre and Moloney.. are British intelligence agents .
The Falls road seems now to be covered in this courtesy of his supporters and the line taken by the spin doctors.

note the different paint but identical handwriting

Id say MacIntyre is now in a certain amount of physical danger . Theres definitely a backlash being prepared but its certainly not against the British forces.

 

[Citizen66]

You say that actual amnesties are entirely different to the release of prisoners and attendant understandings under the GFA.

And if there was an 'actual amnesty' this time too and they reneged on it?

What then?

In the documentary it says the investigation of Jean McConville is outside of the amnesty (I think) because her body was found by a member of the public rather than due to IRA disclosure. Hence it's a criminal investigation.

 

[bubblesmcgrath]

When I said republican I meant as in republican spokesperson or someone identfiable with a republican organisation, ex prisoner, IRA veteran etc. Not a personal political opinion . That a great many people have regardless of their affiliation or profile.

I'm glad you qualified that cos for a while there I thought you were saying that anyone who has a desire to see a united Ireland...or hold republican aspirations ...had to be a member of a paramilitary organisation and / or vote for Sinn Fein.

Phew .....

 

[bubblesmcgrath]

note the different paint but identical handwriting
.

Black on black is rarely legible tho....in fairness