General Election 2015 - chat, predictions, results and post election discussion

[Fez909]

I don't get the bacon thing...it's really, really strange. It's got its own Wikipedia page:

In May 2014, Ed Miliband, leader of the British Labour Party, was photographed awkwardly eating a bacon sandwich whilst campaigning. The image became an Internet meme, and has been referred to by British media when other campaigning politicians are pictured eating meat sandwiches. While some have seen the photograph as evidence that Miliband is out of touch with the British public, others have perceived it as part of a campaign against him.

The entire article reads like satire: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Miliband_bacon_sandwich_photograph

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

I don't get the bacon thing...it's really, really strange. It's got its own Wikipedia page:

I really, really hope it's not because Ed has a Jewish background.

 

[Fez909]

I really, really hope it's not because Ed has a Jewish background.

I did wonder about that, but it's never mentioned, even online. I know the papers would never hightlight this, even if it was the real reason, but idiots online are not afraid of saying/doing racist shit.

 

[Orang Utan]

I did wonder about that, but it's never mentioned, even online. I know the papers would never hightlight this, even if it was the real reason, but idiots online are not afraid of saying/doing racist shit.

It prompted many a waggish Photoshop:

 

[treelover]

I knew The SUN would run with that, its still in the gutter despite its new 'hip' managing editor, 'Stig' Abell

 

[Wilf]

Tories + Libs + DUP, just about going to be enough isn't it?

 

[Fez909]

nope!

Tories

277 - Con
027 - Lib
008 - Dup
------------
312 - Total

Labour + left(ish)

267 - Lab
052 - SNP
004 - Plaid
001 - Green
-------------
324 - Total

Enough Lab+others to vote down the Tories' QS, then Milliband is PM.

I suppose UKIP would vote with the Tories, too, even though they won't be in the coalition. But their 2 seats or whatever won't save the QS.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

nope!

Tories

277 - Con
027 - Lib
008 - Dup
------------
312 - Total

Labour + left(ish)

267 - Lab
052 - SNP
004 - Plaid
001 - Green
-------------
324 - Total

Enough Lab+others to vote down the Tories' QS, then Milliband is PM.

I suppose UKIP would vote with the Tories, too, even though they won't be in the coalition. But their 2 seats or whatever won't save the QS.

 

[Fez909]

Hocus Eye.
You missed your message

 

[Hocus Eye.]

It was interesting tonight on the BBC news programmes to see Cameron in a right panic trying to rally his support. To me he seems to have "lost it" in the sense of his self control. I hope that is also true in the political sense. It would bring much hope to the UK to see the end of the Tories. The LibDems are gone anyway so nothing to look for there.

Sorry Fez I don't know what happened there. I didn't mean to just copy your post without a comment.

 

[stupid kid]

By the way, how do the laws about General Elections restrict what we can say in this and other threads on Thursday?

When voters come into Urban75 to vote, posters cannot hassle or otherwise make overtures towards them. A policeman will be attending to every thread.

 

[killer b]

I knew The SUN would run with that, its still in the gutter despite its new 'hip' managing editor, 'Stig' Abell

Why is stig abell 'hip'?

 

[Kaka Tim]

Anthony Wells has an excellent analysis of the election battle grounds with some informative tables. http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/9377

And he predicts -

As it is though, my personal best guess is Conservatives around 277 seats, Labour around 267, the Lib Dems around 29 and the SNP around 52

the whole thing is tighter than a gnats chuff and small factors like labours supposed advantage on the ground and/or the rainfall in pudsey or thurrock could make a decisive difference. Most extraordinary election since 1945 - a wide range of probably outcomes and everything on a knife edge.

 

[DotCommunist]

Papers gone radio rental again this morn. Sun leads with a re hash of the fateful bacon sandwich and Mail dog whistles by describing Red Ed as a 'class war zealot'

Rothemeres body may be dead but his spirit has lost none of its potentcy

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Papers gone radio rental again this morn. Sun leads with a re hash of the fateful bacon sandwich and Mail dog whistles by describing Red Ed as a 'class war zealot'

Rothemeres body may be dead but his spirit has lost none of its potentcy

His body is not dead, even if he has no soul to damn.

 

[Dogsauce]

Doesn't really feel like living in a democracy when friends (and views) of the government dominate the media output so much. Got to hope it's screaming because it's dying.

 

[DotCommunist]

His body is not dead, even if he has no soul to damn.

And with strange aeons even death may die.

 

[chilango]

Heard my first anti-SNP views down here, finally.

However, they've come from a source that is desperately looking for excuses to vote Conservative.

...fortunately said voter(s) are also desperately looking for excuses to justify not being arsed to get round to the Polling Station.

 

[mk12]

I'm tempted to bet on a Lab-Lib minority government. Is that likely?

 

[redsquirrel]

I'm tempted to bet on a Lab-Lib minority government. Is that likely?

Been murmurings about it, though a lot of it is probably Blairite shite. Personally I don't think it's likely, the LDs clearly prefer the Tories but I wouldn't completely rule it out we all know the LDs will do anything for power.

 

[Quartz]

Let me check my tin-foil hat a moment...

How about a short-term Lib-Lab-Con coalition with Clegg as PM (Cameron & Miliband not being acceptable to each other) to enact electoral reform to reduce the influence of the SNP by introducing Approval Voting? And abolishing the regional assemblies and transferring their powers and responsibilities to the locally elected Westminster MPs?

 

[Quartz]

we all know the LDs will do anything for power.

I think you can say that about most of the parties.

 

[Dogsauce]

Been murmurings about it, though a lot of it is probably Blairite shite. Personally I don't think it's likely, the LDs clearly prefer the Tories but I wouldn't completely rule it out we all know the LDs will do anything for power.

It's useful to spread those rumours so that vermin that are thinking of tactically voting for them are discouraged. Clegg is reasonably likely to keep his seat due to tactical tory voting.

 

[Barking_Mad]

I suspect Ed will do a 180 when he needs the SNP.

 

[Dogsauce]

Nightmare scenario is second election (although I'm not sure that is possible) then mobilisation of tactical tory votes where UKIP/libdem came close second to pick up enough seats for some blue-purple-yellow mess of a coalition. The doors would probably fall off that alliance pretty quickly.

 

[Quartz]

Nightmare scenario is second election

Labour did well in the second election of 1974 so I'm not sure why it should be a nightmare. Other than having to go through the process again, of course.

 

[Tony_LeaS]

Labour did well in the second election of 1974 so I'm not sure why it should be a nightmare. Other than having to go through the process again, of course.

Not as much the nightmare of voting again, but more so the build up of the re-election for however many months.

 

[krink]

Heard my first anti-SNP views down here

same here from two probable labour voters (Labour as tradition rather than political). it was general anti-jock prejudice - something i don't get when up here in the north east of england we practically are jocks!

 

[brogdale]

Labour did well in the second election of 1974 so I'm not sure why it should be a nightmare. Other than having to go through the process again, of course.

2% swing leaving them as a minority administration....not that well, then?

 

[belboid]

2% swing leaving them as a minority administration....not that well, then?

Majority - even if only of two. It became a minority government, but not until...77?