General Election 2015 - chat, predictions, results and post election discussion
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He's small on the inside. Small of heart, small of mind, small of guts.
Libertad
Sparking up a rollie in the Reichstag
A soldier for christ, the cunt.
WWJD? Probably send IDS to the boss upstairs or, worse still, forgive him and then send him on his way with a fully healed and vocal social conscience which would screw up the his remaining life.
Idris2002
Christmas Eve, you know?
Half a denarii for me bloody life story?
newbie
undisambiguated
You'd have to be well into your 70s to remember any different. For those of us younger than that there are essentially no significant examples to point to where class mobilisation has led anywhere other than failure. Yet don't we all know people who have gained, via wealth accumulation, the individual choices and control over their own life that the middling classes have and the working classes lack? Don't most who lack that, want it?
The narrative that individual aspiration can (doesn't always) succeed is reinforced day after day by observing those that have clambered out of the working class over the past few decades.
the bit I didn't bold may be true but it's a rather abstract truth for most people. Plenty of households have gained from huge recent house prices rises and low interest rates. They may be thought to have done so at the expense of those renting and of savers, but they've not directly exploited anyone and can point to eg btl landlords or tax credit subsidised employers as being much more directly guilty. Very few mainstream politicians have even really tried to turn that abstraction concrete in the last few decades, and those that tried have failed because there are too many net beneficiaries. We live in a stakeholder society, and pointing out that not everyone holds a stake hasn't gone anywhere for a very long time.
newbie
undisambiguated
maybe, but attitudes are indicated by the numbers for whom the equality based system doesn't provide sufficient personal advantage- those who can afford it will pay term by term, or buy private tutors to pass selective entrance or buy a home in the catchment area, but for those with less means it costs little to attend some church on sunday or get active in a PTA in order to get the right contacts.
A sane and consciously fair society would shun those who behave like that, instead those who simply send their sprogs to the local school worry they're not doing quite as much as they should...
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Ashcroft has released his post election poll - which makes for quite interesting reading, even if we cant believe a word of it anymore. http://lordashcroftpolls.com/wp-con...RD-ASHCROFT-POLLS-Post-vote-poll-summary1.pdf
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
What a sore loser - he is such a dick
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
he can afford to be litigious as fuck given all the money he makes out of russian and iranian media.
A fedora really becomes him
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
what was it he did again- accused her of being a fake muslim or something? takfiring it is probably his next style anyway
Wow. Look at Table 2: 11% made up their mind on the last day.
Look also at Table 6: 25% voted for the best candidate regardless of party and 19% voted tactically.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Scepticism is well placed, but I'm prepared to believe a little more of the 'post-match' analysis that the claims of the pre-election period. Interesting stuff.
Unsurprisingly it's the economy (stupid) and Miliband (& co)'s lack of credibility that catches the eye. Fundamentally the punters believed that paying off the deficit and debt
is, or should be, a genuine priority for the government. But tbf if both major parties choose to spin that line...who can blame them for believing it to be true?Accused her of lying about her forced marriage among other things
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
ah thats right. So we can put that lowness next to his rape apologism and his taking money from anti semites and putins mouthpiece press organ
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
Half the green vote where former lib-dem voters then.
ska invita
back on the other side
also #9 Tory voters are disproportionaly feeling "the benefits of the recovery" <lucky them!Scepticism is well placed, but I'm prepared to believe a little more of the 'post-match' analysis that the claims of the pre-election period. Interesting stuff.
Unsurprisingly it's the economy (stupid) and Miliband (& co)'s lack of credibility that catches the eye. Fundamentally the punters believed that paying off the deficit and debt
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
The real horror-show in that table is the less than 2/3 2010 Lab voters who stuck with the party! They avoided wipe-out courtesy of the LD wipe-out (24% = 2010 LDers), but that won't always be there.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Hardly surprising, the people who Labour had totally fucked off looked for a supposedly anti-tory 'radical' alternative, then found they were actually tories too, so jumped again.
ska invita
back on the other side
overall the Labour vote went up a percentage point on 2010 though I think I read elsewhere...
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Combustible
Well-Known Member
I wonder if those are the "false statements" he wants to challenge in court...
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
He's got the soul of a bantam rooster, embodied in the form of an ostrich.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Enjoying reading Mhairi Black's tweets from when she was 15: 'maths is shite' 
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i don't know why, it's not like they have a sixty seat majority or anything
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