From what I gather Whitty is talking about the usual taking the foot off the restrictions pedal once numbers eventually come down and expecting Covid to be around during winter to come, possibly for years to come.
When we came out of lockdown #one the numbers were low, but Superspreader Sunak and the rest of the cabinet encouraged everyone to go forth and multiply, instead of trying to stamp it out.
The Tories mindset aside, is the possibility of having a Zero Covid policy in the UK impossible?
Only with travel restrictions and/or mass testing at all ports and airports. Even then, it'd be fairly tricky.
yes please. the fact it hasnt/isnt happening is mind boggling to me.Only with travel restrictions and/or mass testing at all ports and airports.
if we get to low numbers like we did last summer (not a certainty this time around, what with mutations etc), i cant see why there couldnt be a serious push to squash it properly. proper test and trace and isolate. proper covid control on borders.Is it even possible to get zero covid now tho?
Is it even possible to get zero covid now tho?
Thing is the economy - by which i mean peoples lives - are getting destroyed right now. Propping the rest up with furlough is a huge spending exercise.Not one many with power will want to heed, for economic reasons, unless they are forced to by failure of other options.
Agreed as a temporary measure but really difficult to have permenantly which a zero covid strategy would mean.yes please. the fact it hasnt/isnt happening is mind boggling to me.
N439K in the receptor binding motif (RBM) in the spike glycoprotein gene. This mutation was present in a lineage, until recently almost unique to Scotland, that had infected more than 500 people. The mutation increases the binding affinity of spike protein to ACE2 which is one mechanism by which the virus might escape neutralization by monoclonal antibodies. The Scottish lineage defined by N439K has not been observed since the 20th June 2020. Detailed investigation of the available clinical data showed no increased severity, although any effects for this mutation alone are difficult to determine as it occurs on the D614G background. N439K has also been identified in another significant lineage which has been sampled in Romania, Norway, Switzerland and Ireland and now all parts of the UK. It has also been detected in four linked infections in the US and sporadically in the data. Multiple other mutations in the RBM specifically and spike (some of known antigenic significance) have been observed (some in linked infections) demonstrating that although (relatively) slow evolving, SARS- CoV-2 can readily tolerate mutations which have the potential to be antigenic/vaccine escape mutants or alter the interaction between virus and ACE2 receptor.
yeah they got down really low
Zero confirmed coronavirus deaths in Scotland for 10 days
Four new cases recorded in the last 24 hours, taking the total number of positive cases across the country to 18,551.news.stv.tv
Scotland has a very open border of course
Just thinking aloud about immunity. So they reckon that immunity lasts 5-6months now, is that right? So any chance the rules might change on isolating. For example if you've had a positive test and isolated, do you still need to isolate if you are named as a close contact? I'm guessing the answer is still yes.
Just thinking aloud about immunity. So they reckon that immunity lasts 5-6months now, is that right? So any chance the rules might change on isolating. For example if you've had a positive test and isolated, do you still need to isolate if you are named as a close contact? I'm guessing the answer is still yes.
I've touched on this in the last week.
I dont spend too much time on it because I dont think there will be many serious signs of the establishment going with such an approach unless key aspects of their remaining orthodox approach repeatedly fail.
Is he clinically vulnerable? My dad is the same age and hasn't heard anything yetMy 78-year-old dad had his first dose of vaccine today
And, very pleasingly indeed, they booked him in for his second dose for 3-weeks' time
Some cognitive decline/early dementia. Cancer, but not one of the ones on the list. Very mobility impaired.Is he clinically vulnerable? My dad is the same age and hasn't heard anything yet
Ah ok, my dad is healthier - cancer but not poorly with it, just the usual age-related things like arthritice and no cognitive impairment. I'm just impatient as I don't want to bring it home to him from work.Some cognitive decline/early dementia. Cancer, but not one of the ones on the list. Very mobility impaired.
I don't know what the equation is that balances those and other things. Hopefully not too much 'postcode lottery' in it.
He only got his appointment 2 days ago (or became aware of it then).
Fingers crossed for your dad to get his vax asap.
I'm amazed they are still fuzzy around whether fever needs to be reduced.
I never have - I just take enough paracetomol / codeine / ibuprofen to relieve pain and it seems to work .
I think I mean I lean towards codeine, with ibuprofen for sinus pain.Paracetamol and Ibuprofen reduce fever
I think I mean I lean towards codeine, with ibuprofen for sinus pain.
I always endeavour to keep the dose as low as possible - especially paracetomol cos it's nasty stuff.
It's a pain having to get cocodamol off the pharmacist when I need a lot of it (when I had sciatica and shingles I had to use three different ones) - they used to dish the soluble ones out by the hundred.