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At least 44k dead with none of the benefits of the lockdown but all the economic devastation. He should be sent to prison.

That implies there was no point in the late lockdown. I strongly disagree, there were still benefits from locking down at the stage we did, its just it would have been so much better an outcome if it had been done 2 weeks earlier than that. Dont accidentally give ammo to the anti-lockdown scum.
 
I saw an illegal street hairdresser yesterday.

He'd set up outside a closed restaurant with an outside plug socket, which he used for his clippers. Put a stool down, used a bin bag for for a gown and did quick cuts for passers by while someone was lookout for the police coming.

Illegal street hairdressers? It's like something out of The Day Today.
 
Car dealership opening does actually benefit a lot of vulnerable people as for example there has been no motability scheme running for 3 months. Many people are waiting for their transport and no new applicants are being taken now or until at least September. This means that no one with a mobility issue can get their own transport via the scheme. Many of these people will be those that are too vulnerable to catch public transport.
 
Car dealership opening does actually benefit a lot of vulnerable people as for example there has been no motability scheme running for 3 months. Many people are waiting for their transport and no new applicants are being taken now or until at least September. This means that no one with a mobility issue can get their own transport via the scheme. Many of these people will be those that are too vulnerable to catch public transport.


They could so easily be making allowances around all that stuff. In fact they should’ve been doing that right from the start. I think it’s got more to do with the collapse of the car industry. Hertz in America have declared bankruptcy, Aston Martin in trouble, they’re all in trouble. If they really cared about people with disabilities who need access to vehicles, it would’ve been so fucking easy for them to sort that out. They might dress it up as thoughtful concern, but this is about the car industry.
 
They could so easily be making allowances around all that stuff. In fact they should’ve been doing that right from the start. I think it’s got more to do with the collapse of the car industry. Hertz in America have declared bankruptcy, Aston Martin in trouble, they’re all in trouble. If they really cared about people with disabilities who need access to vehicles, it would’ve been so fucking easy for them to sort that out. They might dress it up as thoughtful concern, but this is about the car industry.

I 100% agree that they should have found a way to keep it going as an essential service through the lockdown and I don't think for a minute that they're doing it for the motability scheme but nevertheless the scheme is very dependent on car dealerships being open.
 
I 100% agree that they should have found a way to keep it going as an essential service through the lockdown and I don't think for a minute that they're doing it for the motability scheme but nevertheless the scheme is very dependent on car dealerships being open.


Well yeah, it’s an associated benfit for sure but I highly doubt anyone said “we need to do this before all these other things becasue gosh darn it, it needs to be done to help peope!” When they were saying “how cam we dress this up so it doesn’t look like feather nesting?” someone said “..... well, we could always say how it benefits the disables....


But yes, you’re quite right to flag up how necessary this is to a really significant number of people who have been badly ignored during this crisis.
 
Well yeah, it’s an associated benfit for sure but I highly doubt anyone said “we need to do this before all these other things becasue gosh darn it, it needs to be done to help peope!” When they were saying “how cam we dress this up so it doesn’t look like feather nesting?” someone said “..... well, we could always say how it benefits the disables....


But yes, you’re quite right to flag up how necessary this is to a really significant number of people who have been badly ignored during this crisis.

I doubt they mentioned it as a motivator at all but then I never watch the briefings.
 
I’ve broken the rules by having more than one person round (in the garden not inside) and am planing to do that again on Monday (couple driving out to visit me, same idea garden and go for a walk).
Am writing this here to guage am I out on a limb with this or not. Do feel free to berate me. The couple planning to visit are old, sort of pretend aunt and uncle, and i do have a bit of disquiet about it, certainly won’t be hugging them but do I disinfect the bathroom in case they need to come in and touch stuff? Idk.
 
I’ve broken the rules by having more than one person round (in the garden not inside) and am planing to do that again on Monday (couple driving out to visit me, same idea garden and go for a walk).
Am writing this here to guage am I out on a limb with this or not. Do feel free to berate me. The couple planning to visit are old, sort of pretend aunt and uncle, and i do have a bit of disquiet about it, certainly won’t be hugging them but do I disinfect the bathroom in case they need to come in and touch stuff? Idk.

I wouldn't do it, and don't think people should. But I do get why some people are.

How would you feel if one of them caught it and died in the 2 weeks after they visited you, that's partly what I balance things against.
 
Party with sound system playing on the street last night, accumulating cars and people (up to about 40) on the street and in and out of the house where the party was. Police came twice, first time about 5pm but not much changed. Second time about 10.30pm in more force, told the party in no uncertain terms to leave and stop it, which apart from 2-3 drunk men shouting abuse for a bit, they did.

Quite enjoyed one of the police pointing out the hypocrisy of the people having a 'Love the NHS' poster in their window and having a crowd round breaking social distancing.
 
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