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Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Yeah, as big as a regular aircraft.
T & P
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In completely different news, there have been numerous stories over the years about various enterprises pledging to build a viable ‘son of Concorde’ supersonic passenger jet. All of them have come to nothing, but now we seem to have a project promising enough for a major airline to have placed an order (pre-order, really) for the yet to be built plane…
news.aa.com
A lot of hot air, or do we have something here?
American Airlines Announces Agreement to Purchase Boom Supersonic Overture Aircraft, Places Deposit on 20 Overtures
American, the world’s largest airline, poised to have the world’s largest supersonic fleet with new Boom Supersonic aircraft FORT WORTH, Texas, and DENVER, Aug. 16, 2022 — American Airlines and Boom Supersonic today announced the airline’s agreement to purchase up to 20 Overture aircraft, with...
A lot of hot air, or do we have something here?
Lancman
Well-Known Member
A Middle Eastern airline that I once worked for bought options on 5 Concordes at a very early stage of the aircraft’s design and construction. And later sold those options to a large U.S. airline for a handsome profit.
High Voltage
In the top 97% of Urban's most interesting posters
T & P
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So it seems the despicable Ryanair practice of purposely splitting up parties travelling together if they don’t pay to choose seats is spreading to other airlines. We flew Iberia last week and I checked us in online, but it didn’t occur to me to check the seats, only to arrive at the gate and realise we were eleven rows apart. And there were several empty rows, so no valid excuse whatsoever to do so.
Iberia. A flag carrier airline, for fuck’s sake…
Iberia. A flag carrier airline, for fuck’s sake…
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Virgin berate you if you move seats and try to extort cash inflight, claiming you are in a pricier seat. Not heard of any other carrier taking the piss to that extent.
2hats
Dust.
In smaller or lightly loaded aircraft it can have a significant effect on trim. Fine if people swap seats with each other but perhaps not so if significant numbers move from one area (aft/forward/left/right) to another without reciprocation, particularly for takeoff or landing.
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High Voltage
In the top 97% of Urban's most interesting posters
YEARS ago, a cousin of mine somehow blagged a job working with a couple of F1 racing teams
He recounted one story of, when flying to the Brazilian(??) GP the free bar was towards the back of the plane and it was rammed, so much so, that the pilot was heard to nearly beg over the tannoy to see if anyone was interested in come up to the cockpit to see how they flew the plane in a desperate attempt to get the plane flying approaching level rather than "arse down"
He recounted one story of, when flying to the Brazilian(??) GP the free bar was towards the back of the plane and it was rammed, so much so, that the pilot was heard to nearly beg over the tannoy to see if anyone was interested in come up to the cockpit to see how they flew the plane in a desperate attempt to get the plane flying approaching level rather than "arse down"
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
On the Dragon Rapide we had to be very careful loading passengers as it is prone to nose tip if loaded incorrectly. All passengers were weighed and distributed appropriately. There was also a passenger weight limit. Mind you, the seats were so small a big, big person wouldn't fit anyway.
As you can see they can be a bit "tippy".
NOTE: I do not know if that is what happened in the picture above. Still under investigation I believe.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
So how does handing over $100 help balance the aircraft? Cos that what they do at Virgin.
2hats
Dust.
Perhaps indicative of it not being a trim issue in that instance?
T & P
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Oh, so you do not think purposely splitting up parties travelling together is anything to being worked up about?
At least they still guarantee you a free seat on airplanes, mind. Unlike certain other modes of transportation.
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teuchter
je suis teuchter
It depends what you were told about the seating policy at time of purchase.
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No it doesn't. But then again, I guess you're so used and (sadly) accepting of being treated like shit by train companies that you'll never going to understand why this is an abominable practice regardless of what the T&Cs might or might not state.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Not sure why we seem to have launched into some kind of plane vs train tribalism. Sad that some people want to treat all transport matters this way.
Doesn't matter if it's a plane or a train company - if they give me an option during the booking process, and I decide not to go for it, then I don't get very worked up about it when I don't get it. On the other hand, if certain conditions weren't made clear to me at time of booking, then I might well complain. Indeed I have complained many times to rail operators when they failed to deliver what they should have, and have a good success rate in obtaining refunds and apologies.
If the airline misled you about what you were paying for, then feel free to get worked up about it. Your complaint might be best addressed to the company itself though.
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Yes, the airline has misled me and anyone else who have been split from their travelling companions, on account that never in the history of avation has such practice taken place. In fact, the opposite has been the truth, as airlines have always gone out of their way to actually get people to sit together if at all possible. Now suddenly, and without any warning in their T&Cs, some airlines are secretively, and without even admitting to when confronted in some cases, not only not bothering any longer to keep travelling parties together, but actively separating them as a form of punishment/ extorsion for not daring to spend extra money on choosing seats they are guaranteed by law to get anyway, even when the plane is not full and there is absolutely no technical reason whatsoever to do so.
If you don't see a problem with that, you should really have a word with yourself, to be honest.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Not sure how you've arrived at the conclusion that I don't see a problem with that. I've explicitly said that if they misled you, then it's fair enough to be displeased. Did you ask the cabin crew if you could move, and if so what happened?
T & P
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Post 1310 in this thread must have been written by a differnt teuchter, then...
Elpenor
Dancing as fast as I can
Remember speaking to a helicopter pilot who told me distribution of passengers by weight around the cabin was something that needed to be done before each flight.
2hats
Dust.
Joyrode in a doors-off Bell UH-1H once. PIC directed me to strap into and dangle out the 'door gunners' position whilst, um, more ample (and excitable and then subsequently miffed) passengers had to make do with sitting well inside the cabin closer to the centreline.
