GB News: a thread so you never have to watch it

[chilango]

right. But they also might think that just because some activists in america have been trolled by some nazis into thinking anyone using the the widely recognised OK symbol is also a nazi is no reason to stop using a widely recognised symbol for OK. I still use it from time to time and I'm fairly sure I'm not a nazi.

Sure. I'm not for a moment suggesting it was used in a wp way.

Just that those journalists can't plead ignorance. If they aren't aware of it's wp appropriation they probably aren't the experts on wokeness and anti-racism they have positioned themselves to be.

 

[steveo87]

It's an optics thing.
If you're marketing yourself as a right of centre, 'anti-woke' broadcaster, then it's probably a good idea to say away from any 'concerning' gestures....

 

[killer b]

It's an optics thing.
If you're marketing yourself as a right of centre, 'anti-woke' broadcaster, then it's probably a good idea to say away from any 'concerning' gestures....

But they're only concerning to people who they aren't interested in appealing to/ actively want to alienate

 

[chilango]

Yeah.

I'm not "concerned" by the gesture in this context. I'm more interested in puncturing their self-proclaimed expertise on such matters.

 

[glitch hiker]

Interesting.

There appear to be a growing number of ‘men’s mental health groups’ emerging that are fronts for far-right activists .

Do you have a source for that? If true that's very kinds of fucke dup

 

[Doodler]

Not that obscure, just conveniently excusable.

OK hand sign added to list of hate symbols

A lot more obscure than Pepe the Frog, which journalists should recognise by now.

 

[killer b]

Yeah.

I'm not "concerned" by the gesture in this context. I'm more interested in puncturing their self-proclaimed expertise on such matters.

The whole premise of this station is for their presenters and journalists to challenge or disregard the views and opinions of the woke left. It's their thing.

 

[brogdale]

Do you have a source for that? If true that's very kinds of fucke dup

No, I don't...it's very much an impression that I've developed recently based on some fairly casual looking at the SM outputs from some activists involved in this sort of stuff.
Literally no more than that...but sometimes a hunch is correct.

 

[rubbershoes]

Ambler is hardly 'far right' he started the charity after his brother in law killed himself. If you asked the majority of people outside the Internet what that sign means most of them will say OK.

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It also means OK, but it is very odd for it to be used in a broadcast interview.

 

[killer b]

No, I don't...it's very much an impression that I've developed recently based on some fairly casual looking at the SM outputs from some activists involved in this sort of stuff.
Literally no more than that...but sometimes a hunch is correct.

I think it's quite easy for Men With Grievances to end up dominating these kinds of groups, for obvious reasons. Mostly going in the direction of MRAs than far right though IME?

 

[brogdale]

I think it's quite easy for Men With Grievances to end up dominating these kinds of groups, for obvious reasons. Mostly going in the direction of MRAs than far right though IME?

Yep, but Venn diagram stuff.

 

[killer b]

Yep, but Venn diagram stuff.

I do wonder about this venn diagram, and if it has to be that way - while all the 'she won't let me see the bairns' stuff that's widespread on the left is undeniably quite funny, it does mean that many men who happen find themselves on the wrong side of the family courts don't feel welcome - and there's a whole ecosystem of rightwing voices validating their grievances.

 

[Doodler]

Should spread the rumour that alt-right/manosphere incels in the US have unwittingly adopted the wanker gesture as a covert greeting.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Latest crackpot theory on social media: "all the advertisers that have pulled out are EU companies!!"

.. yeah, like The Open University, Octopus Energy and Vodafone.

 

[Badgers]

Latest crackpot theory on social media: "all the advertisers that have pulled out are EU companies!!"

.. yeah, like The Open University, Octopus Energy and Vodafone.

Desperate idiots

 

[not-bono-ever]

Journalists lol

 

[steveseagull]

So I put an hour in this morning.

It is just. So dull. Great for boomers I guess, to validate their petty right ring grievances. This sort of stuff will interest them plus the utterly cringe presenters. Not sure the younger right wing types are going to stick with it. They will want the sort of stuff that may not get past OFCOM.

Plus they need to cut down on the loons defending massive paedophiles.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Ringpiece grievances

 

[Doodler]

Latest crackpot theory on social media: "all the advertisers that have pulled out are EU companies!!"

.. yeah, like The Open University, Octopus Energy and Vodafone.

It will also reinforce beliefs on the right about the reality of cancel culture and how corporate capitalism and woke leftism are joined at the hip. (They would do the same if they could, and more, but they can't.)

 

[King Biscuit Time]

Just recently seen a few 'men's mental health walking groups' started up in South London and, with no actual evidence at all, noticed that their social media activists/followers seem to have pronounced pro-right-wing/anti left-wing characteristics.

Seems an obvious way to use a current hot topic (that may attract 'official' support/football club endorsement etc.) to subtly recruit/influence under the radar, gathering together potentially vulnerable men.

I've been having some serious suspicions about one I keep seeing on FB. Even down to the logo which I occasionally convince myself has hidden RW symbols. Then I think I'm just cracking up. But the fact that this is a thing is very interesting.

 

[PR1Berske]

It wouldn't surprise me if a few of the "men together away from our worries" tiptoe into far-right and -adjacent territory. It's the old Alpha Course rouse: spend a few weeks chatting about the weather and being nice to each other, and then by week 4 expect everyone to be speaking in tongues and hanging around evangelical churches.

 

[killer b]

It wouldn't surprise me if a few of the "men together away from our worries" tiptoe into far-right and -adjacent territory. It's the old Alpha Course rouse: spend a few weeks chatting about the weather and being nice to each other, and then by week 4 expect everyone to be speaking in tongues and hanging around evangelical churches.

Maybe - but if that's true, it's at least partly because that space has been more or less abandoned by the left

 

[brogdale]

Maybe - but if that's true, it's at least partly because that space has been more or less abandoned by the left

Not sure about 'abandoned' tbh, I can't recall when the left would ever have taken an explicit interest in men's mental health.
I see this more as some elements (correctly) identifying the current opportunity to work a front.

 

[brogdale]

I've been having some serious suspicions about one I keep seeing on FB. Even down to the logo which I occasionally convince myself has hidden RW symbols. Then I think I'm just cracking up. But the fact that this is a thing is very interesting.

Got to clarify, I don't know this is a thing; it's a hunch corroborated by some SM trawling.

 

[two sheds]

The left has by and large 'sided' with the women with kids (and so often too the kids) in the relationship. Don't think that should change at all.

 

[DaveCinzano]

It was only a matter of time before they would have someone on defending Prince Andrew

 

[equationgirl]

So ... did you just insert yourself into a thread where your condition wasn’t part of the discussion until you made it so?

One, you don't own the thread and anyone can comment whenever they want, two, we''re not talking about any condition I may or may not have, three, you're being a twat with your attitude and four, you're a noob.

 

[brogdale]

One, you don't own the thread and anyone can comment whenever they want, two, we''re not talking about any condition I may or may not have, three, you're being a twat with your attitude and four, you're a noob.

who took the Murdoch shilling.

 

[cupid_stunt]

One, you don't own the thread and anyone can comment whenever they want, two, we''re not talking about any condition I may or may not have, three, you're being a twat with your attitude and four, you're a noob.

Surely you mean - cunt?

 

[equationgirl]

Surely you mean - cunt?

I'm trying to cut back and not use the word until after lunch.