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incidently, can we stop referring to the zionist terrorists as "idf" when defence seems nothing to do with their activities in gaza?
Gaza under attack yet again.
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incidently, can we stop referring to the zionist terrorists as "idf" when defence seems nothing to do with their activities in gaza?
This needs a massive 'LIKE'.
Yet if Muslims say the Twin Towers, the world centre of capitalism, was a legitimate target they end up in Guantanamo bay or doing life in a US prison.
bmd
Island in the stream.
I find this all so utterly bewildering. One country is killing another and there are people who find it justified. How? What power does Palestine have? At all? It's like watching the kid with the pea shooter fighting a soldier firing a rifle whilst clad in body armour. Then the soldier saying the peas hurt and all his mates saying yeah, that's why we have to kill him.
It's like some horrific version of the emperors new clothes. As if no one can see what's right there in front of them. Well, no one with the power to stop it.
Why isn't anyone stopping Israel? What happened to the USA defending the defenceless? It's heart breaking to watch Palestine try to defend themselves. They clearly have absolutely nothing to do so with.
What I find amazing is that Israel have managed to spin their actions so that it's not their fault at all, if only Hamas would stop then everything would be fine. Stop what? Farting over the wall? Dropping their pathetic fireworks on Israel?
Sickening.
It's like some horrific version of the emperors new clothes. As if no one can see what's right there in front of them. Well, no one with the power to stop it.
Why isn't anyone stopping Israel? What happened to the USA defending the defenceless? It's heart breaking to watch Palestine try to defend themselves. They clearly have absolutely nothing to do so with.
What I find amazing is that Israel have managed to spin their actions so that it's not their fault at all, if only Hamas would stop then everything would be fine. Stop what? Farting over the wall? Dropping their pathetic fireworks on Israel?
Sickening.
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agricola
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Exactly the same argument as the 7/7 attackers, then.
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Gingerman
Is a great bunch of lads.....
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...hat-helps-israelis-to-hide-facts-9630765.html
Dont know if this has been posted already......
Dont know if this has been posted already......
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
bmd
Island in the stream.
And yet a lot if Americans would disagree. It's pretty much the same as how Israel's actions are spun. There's the plain truth and then there's the massive 'hearts and minds' campaign that we are supposed to swallow. It's like they can't be bothered any more, let's just put out some half arsed justification and if they don't like it then they're clearly subversive.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
To be fair they do have a lot of work to do keeping up the belief that Israel is America's strongest ally, despite all the spying, the vast sums of money sent the way of Israel*, the utter lack of any real assistance in any war that the US has been involved in, the abuse when the Israeli government doesnt get its way (ie Kerry's treatment lately, Obama's treatment generally), the vast lobbying on the Capitol in favour of a foriegn power, the inevitable transfer of technology to third states (whether deliberately or accidentally) and the massive diplomatic complications that come from giving the Israelis a blank cheque to do whatever they want, to whomever they want.
* admittedly much of it is spent buying US military goods, but its still taxpayers / borrowed money in the first place
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
bmd
Island in the stream.
Eventually, all the Palestinians will be gone and Israelis will have replaced them. The reason they're not just moving in is because it wouldn't look good. But who cares? Who, in power, really cares? I mean if they did then they would be doing something. Clearly they don't so why not just bulldoze Gaza and get on with it. Or is that what we're seeing now?
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Thats the problem; noone appears to care enough about the Palestinians, or even about the Israelis, to prevent what could easily happen over the next few weeks and months. It is perhaps worth quoting a former British Ambassador to Israel, Sir Sherard Cowper-Coles (via this article by Oborne):
MAD-T-REX
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bmd
Island in the stream.
Yeah, true. It just seems like this is so blatant and prolonged. We were engaged with Germany in a war at the time, not that that justifies ignoring it. And Rwanda was like a firestorm. Again, not a good justification. But Palestine has been limping along for years.
That's the depressing truth, isn't it. And in a hundred years, no one but the historians will even remember. I wonder if natural selection is accelerating these horrific traits in humanity. Maybe in a hundred years no one will be left.
goldenecitrone
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How does a lobby acting on behalf of a country with 8 million people buy and control the government of the world's largest economic and military superpower?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
I think you'll find Israel is bought and paid for by the US, to carry out its dirty work and help destabilise the Middle East.
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mi...ive-tweets-nighttime-bombardment-gaza-n167601
Despite some despicable cunts claiming she's a fake, a Pakistani man or a Hamas account, here's the 16 year old @farah_gazan being interviewed.
Despite some despicable cunts claiming she's a fake, a Pakistani man or a Hamas account, here's the 16 year old @farah_gazan being interviewed.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Works for me. Came up much quicker than last night. Caught the end of an announcement about the generator in the building...
E2A: Wait. Appears to be a 37-minute pre-record, if I interpret the widget correctly... Jehad posted pre-records 5 hours ago, 21 hours ago...
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Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
Off air for me, it just goes to an old recording. Maybe they were in an area affected by the destroyed power station. Cutting off the ability to supply the rest of the world with pictures and sounds of the massacre would be very useful to the Israeli's I'd think.
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