Fuck Gentrification - Join the Fuck Parade...Part 3!

[Dowie]

It's like pulling your teeth out with rusty pliers.

only because you've generally got shit arguments to try and justify it....

 

[Pickman's model]

It's like pulling your teeth out with rusty pliers.

when it should be me pulling dowie's teeth with rusty pliers and no anesthetick beyond the occasional well-intentioned head kick.

 

[Pickman's model]

only because you've generally got shit arguments to try and justify it....

Citizen66's shit argument nonetheless better than your non-existent argument

 

[Dowie]

Citizen66's shit argument nonetheless better than your non-existent argument

so answer the question then

 

[SpamMisery]

Put me right off my cornflakes

Furious mob targets mildly annoying thing

 

[Dowie]

what other food establishments have you in mind?

any on that same road

 

[Dowie]

when it should be me pulling dowie's teeth with rusty pliers and no anesthetick beyond the occasional well-intentioned head kick.

you sound frustrated

 

[Pickman's model]

so answer the question then

i did

 

[Pickman's model]

you sound frustrated

you sound thick as pig-shit

 

[Pickman's model]

any on that same road

before we proceed let me ask you this: how do you define middle class?

 

[cesare]

Put me right off my cornflakes

Furious mob targets mildly annoying thing

If they think that was a furious mob they're going to struggle CTR

 

[Dowie]

you sound thick as pig-shit

that's it - avoid questions and resort to just slinging insults because your arguments are a load of crap

 

[Dowie]

before we proceed let me ask you this: how do you define middle class?

I was asking you that and you seemed to find it difficult to answer - so far you've diverted and then resorted to throwing insults around... pathetic

 

[Pickman's model]

that's it - avoid questions and resort to just slinging insults because your arguments are a load of crap

it's difficult to present an argument to somsone whose entire debating strategy seems based around shifting the parameters at random.

 

[Pickman's model]

I was asking you that and you seemed to find it difficult to answer - so far you've diverted and then resorted to throwing insults around... pathetic

so when you throw insults round it's not a diversion but when i do it is. why is that?

 

[marty21]

I actually go to the cereal cafe to save money as it costs £65 for cereal at my local deli

 

[Dowie]

it's difficult to present an argument to somsone whose entire debating strategy seems based around shifting the parameters at random.

I'm not shifting anything - you decided to get sidetracked with petty insults and dreams about teeth pulling when asked a question - I'll ask again:

Why is the cereal cafe such an issue and the other food establishments on brick lane not an issue - what makes the cereal cafe owners middle class gentrifiers?

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm not shifting anything - you decided to get sidetracked with petty insults and dreams about teeth pulling when asked a question - I'll ask again:

Why is the cereal cafe such an issue and the other food establishments on brick lane not an issue - what makes the cereal cafe owners middle class gentrifiers?

BECAUSE THEY HAVE MOVED INTO THE AREA TO SUPPORT GENTRIFIERS: THEY CATER TO GENTRIFIERS AND NOT THE LOCAL POPULACE as opposed to e.g. the bengali restaurants or the bagel shops which have been there for many years. indeed the very ward's named banglatown.

 

[Dowie]

BECAUSE THEY HAVE MOVED INTO THE AREA TO SUPPORT GENTRIFIERS: THEY CATER TO GENTRIFIERS AND NOT THE LOCAL POPULACE as opposed to e.g. the bengali restaurants or the bagel shops which have been there for many years. indeed the very ward's named banglatown.

how do they support 'gentriiers'?

you can go into any number of bars on that road and see plenty of hipster types, any number of Curry houses and see groups of city bankers... what makes the cereal cafe different? You think the entire row of curry houses with people stood outside trying to attract passing trade mostly supports the local populace?

This is why you've got shit arguments- because you can't justify it other than ranting, resorting to insults or bleatling vaguely that they support 'gentrifiers' - frankly it is you who needs a few knocks to the head if you think attacking a cafe helps any cause....

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Remember, we must start from first principles on every thread relating to gentrification, including, it seems, "what is capitalism?"

 

[sim667]

£3.19 for 565g from Tesco.

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£2 at sainsbury's..... but I didn't realise they were on offer (though that seemed cheap).

£2.94 usually..... they're still selling it at nearly 20x times the price of a supermarket, and I've no doubt they're buying in cheaper than supermarket price either.

 

[Pickman's model]

how do they support 'gentriiers'?

you can go into any number of bars on that road and see plenty of hipster types, any number of Curry houses and see groups of city bankers... what makes the cereal cafe different?

This is why you've got shit arguments- because you can't justify it other than ranting, resorting to insults or bleatling vaguely that they support 'gentrifiers' - frankly it is you who needs a few knocks to the head if you think attacking a cafe helps any cause....

they support gentrifiers by providing services aimed at those gentrifiers: just as the estate agents up the road from the cereal cafe isn't aimed at local working class people, but at middle class people moving into the area. it would help if you were prepared to find out what gentrification means and how it works so you could come across with some vague understanding of the social processes under discussion.

 

[cesare]

Remember, we must start from first principles on every thread relating to gentrification, including, it seems, "what is capitalism?"

We haven't even started on the difference between regeneration and gentrification yet

 

[Dowie]

they support gentrifiers by providing services aimed at those gentrifiers: just as the estate agents up the road from the cereal cafe isn't aimed at local working class people, but at middle class people moving into the area.

how do you know that their customers base is any different to the many bars that have been along that road for years? And again those curry houses are often full of city types not locals... You think there could be so many of them on the same road if they were there to provide to just the local population? Almost the whole of brick lane caters mostly to people who don't live there and has done so for a while.

 

[DotCommunist]

if we are really lucky diamond will turn up to spin his line about nimbyist racism

 

[Pickman's model]

how do you know that their customers base is any different to the many bars that have been along that road for years? And again those curry houses are often full of city types not locals... You think there could be so many of them on the same road if they were there to provide to just the local population? The whole of brick lane caters mostly to people who don't live there.

how do you know it isn't?

 

[Pickman's model]

if we are really lucky diamond will turn up to spin his line about nimbyist racism

he's farmed out his responses on these threads to dowie who is standing in so very well for him.

 

[Dowie]

how do you know it isn't?

how do I know what isn't?

 

[Pickman's model]

how do I know what isn't?

you see, here's why it's not worth conversing with you because your brain refuses the simplest of jumps.

 

[Citizen66]

only because you've generally got shit arguments to try and justify it....

It's difficult to disagree with the terminally obtuse.