French magazine publishes controversial cartoons of Prophet Muhammad - many killed in revenge attack

[weltweit]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19646748

France in embassy alert over Prophet Muhammad cartoons

Security is being increased at France's interests abroad after a French satirical magazine published obscene cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad.

French embassies, consulates, cultural centres and international French schools in some 20 countries will be closed on Friday as a precaution.

And so it goes on.

 

[xes]

I think everyone should do it. Have a national publish a picture of mohammad day. Maybe then it'd loose its power and people would realise that actually, it's not a big deal at all.

 

[DotCommunist]

is this some hilarious comment on the banning ofthe royal photos by french court

 

[weltweit]

is this some hilarious comment on the banning ofthe royal photos by french court

Among the explicit cartoons inside, one clearly parodies the topless photos of the Duchess of Cambridge which appeared in Closer magazine, and resulted in an injunction on Tuesday.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Fucking lazy bbc twats.

A central tenet of Islam bans the portrayal of its founder, the Prophet Muhammad.

This is highly bloody contested.

 

[butchersapron]

What is obscene about the cartoons?

 

[weltweit]

What is obscene about the cartoons?

I haven't seen the cartoons yet but :

The cartoons were featured in the French satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo. Its front cover showed an Orthodox Jew pushing a turbaned figure in a wheelchair and several caricatures of the Prophet were included on its inside pages, including some of him naked.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/19/film-protests-france-reaction-idUSL5E8KJC4Q20120919

 

[butchersapron]

I haven't seen the cartoons yet but :

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/19/film-protests-france-reaction-idUSL5E8KJC4Q20120919

I don't see how that's obscene. The BBC (and you by copying them) are sort of buying into and transmitting the hysteria by just saying that they are, that's to implicitly take one side here (if there aren't any obscene ones of course).

 

[stuff_it]

Was he topless?

 

[weltweit]

Was he topless?

Well, I believe he is naked in some of them so - yes !!

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Well, I believe he is naked in some of them so - yes !!

Is a cartoon of a naked body obscene?

 

[weltweit]

 

[weltweit]

Is a cartoon of a naked body obscene?

I don't know.

 

[treelover]

The medieval Christians didn't have a problem with the naked body..

Saint Sebastian, cast 1482-1484
Matteo Civitali

 

[stuff_it]

Is a cartoon of a naked body obscene?

Ask Shippy.

 

[gabi]

Not exactly that offensive.

I am liking all this winding up of islamists though, I have to say.

 

[weltweit]

Not exactly that offensive.

Well done on finding the cover. The ones inside apparently have him naked. I have seen one where he is snogging another man but I could not link to it.

 

[gabi]

Mahmoud Ghozlan, a spokesman for the Muslim Brotherhood, said that French law should deal with insults against Islam in the same way as it deals with Holocaust denial.

lol. coz theyre the same thing eh? cunt.

 

[JimW]

Not exactly that offensive.

I am liking all this winding up of islamists though, I have to say.

My French is fairly shit but seems to be equating mocking of Muhammad as in a a representative of his religion and its dogmas with mocking of Jews in general, which is just racist bollocks.

 

[treelover]

If Allah or God for that matter is all powerful, surely he will 'punish' the unbelievers/heretics, etc, why have a middle man...

 

[Sue]

My French is fairly shit but seems to be equating mocking of Muhammad as in a a representative of his religion and its dogmas with mocking of Jews in general, which is just racist bollocks.

'Untouchables [who] you mustn't make fun of.'

From the front cover, seems to be saying you can't take the piss out off Jews or Muslims (assume that's meant to be a 'generic' Muslim rather than Muhammed?). Haven't seen the inside cartoons though.

 

[Firky]

It's a pretty shit drawing to be honest but it isn't something i'd blow myself up over.

 

[JimW]

'Untouchables [who] you mustn't make fun of.'

From the front cover, seems to be saying you can't take the piss out off Jews or Muslims (assume that's meant to be a 'generic' Muslim rather than Muhammed?). Haven't seen the inside cartoons though.

Cheers Sue. Think you're right about them both being generic having thought on.
So that would make it not exactly the same bold ground for free speech as going for specific religious figures/dogmas. One of those liberal arguments that is correct in its basics (you can say what you like) but you sort of know that the major problem with the bourgeois press in France won't be its lack of chances to have a pop at religious minorities.

 

[weltweit]

Shame we can't see the cartoons which are inside the mag. I had a nose earlier but it seems no one online wants to be tarred with the same brush "for republishing them".

 

[Random]

I am liking all this winding up of islamists though, I have to say.

It's the Islamists, the salafists who're doing the winding up. They depend on this stuff as part of their political strategy.

 

[stavros]

If the portrayal of Mo is banned, how do we or the protesters know if he looks anything like this, or indeed the Danish one? He might have been clean-shaven and ginger for all we know.

 

[Dusty Bint]

"The journalists at Charlie Hebdo are a bunch of reactionary provocateurs."

 

[Firky]

It's the Islamists, the salafists who're doing the winding up. They depend on this stuff as part of their political strategy.

I thought it was a stunt by publishers and editors to raise awareness about a periodical in order to gain more advertising revenue.

 

[stavros]

Who knew the Prophet was a Palace fan?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Heard today that a Swedish mag has a 16 page Duchess of Cambridge spread today, with a Danish mag to follow tomorrow.