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On regionalisation, totally agree with The39thStep and JimW , it is desperate kite-flying stuff very unlikely to happen.

As the Daily Heil is quite rightly banned here's an account in the Hartlepool Mail written from a monkey hanger persective. Hartlepool haemorrhaging money and can't hold out indefinitely- a familiar story for many clubs at L2 level and below. The worst position to be in is a club with huge contractural commitments to a full time squad and staff, and no money coming in. The part-time clubs in National League North and South will have it easier, as they can pretty much go into abeyance whilst meeting minimal liabilities, but in many ways the National League is non-league's Championship- a lot of clubs gambling all on sneaking through the eye of a needle and into the promised land of awaydays at Morecambe and Northampton.
 
steeplejack said:
On regionalisation, totally agree with The39thStep and JimW , it is desperate kite-flying stuff very unlikely to happen.

As the Daily Heil is quite rightly banned here's an account in the Hartlepool Mail written from a monkey hanger persective. Hartlepool haemorrhaging money and can't hold out indefinitely- a familiar story for many clubs at L2 level and below. The worst position to be in is a club with huge contractural commitments to a full time squad and staff, and no money coming in. The part-time clubs in National League North and South will have it easier, as they can pretty much go into abeyance whilst meeting minimal liabilities, but in many ways the National League is non-league's Championship- a lot of clubs gambling all on sneaking through the eye of a needle and into the promised land of awaydays at Morecambe and Northampton.
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I went to a Hartlepool Darlington game when I was a teenager and the bloke I was standing next to outside the ground as we queued to go in copped a bottle of coke on his head that was thrown at us.
 
748 PL players and staff were tested over past 48-hours for COVID-19. Six positive tests from three clubs. They will now self-isolate for seven days.
 
The39thStep said:
I went to a Hartlepool Darlington game when I was a teenager and the bloke I was standing next to outside the ground as we queued to go in copped a bottle of coke on his head that was thrown at us.
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Yes the atmosphere at Victoria Park can still be a little, er, old-fashioned on occasion. Re-formed Darlington still rather flatlining in NL North so it's been a while since there's been a Co. Durham derby. Feisty games.
 
The39thStep said:
The away end at Oldham is the coldest place Ive ever been to, the wind in November must have been imported from Siberia.
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Oldham is notoriously cold- a ground I've never made it to. That girning twat Alan Green always used to whine about the weather, when he was paid vast sums of money to commentate on games there in the 90s, when Joe Royle's side were a fixture in the PL.

(I'd stay away from Arbroath on a cold winter's day, too- ground right next the North Sea. On a late November day with the sky red and the floodlights on before kick-off...brrrrr)
 
steeplejack said:
Oldham is notoriously cold- a ground I've never made it to. That girning twat Alan Green always used to whine about the weather, when he was paid vast sums of money to commentate on games there in the 90s, when Joe Royle's side were a fixture in the PL.

(I'd stay away from Arbroath on a cold winter's day, too- ground right next the North Sea. On a late November day with the sky red and the floodlights on before kick-off...brrrrr)
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Alan Greens complaints about being at a game on a Sunday in the gantry , criticising the beverages and food and the quality of the game interspersed with anecdotes and a general world weariness used wear me down on Radio 5 .
 
steeplejack said:
Yes the atmosphere at Victoria Park can still be a little, er, old-fashioned on occasion. Re-formed Darlington still rather flatlining in NL North so it's been a while since there's been a Co. Durham derby. Feisty games.
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When we first moved to Darlington from London my mum bought me and my brother season tickets for Feethams so we had something to do. Loved it joined the lads in the Tin Shed , got arrested fighting with York fans , the Cockney Quaker for all of three years.
 
The39thStep said:
When we first moved to Darlington from London my mum bought me and my brother season tickets for Feethams so we had something to do. Loved it joined the lads in the Tin Shed , got arrested fighting with York fans , the Cockney Quaker for all of three years.
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so "Mitch Pileggi of the Darlington WSM" wasn't complete fantasy then :D
 
'Based on a true story' Funnily enough I always remember Andy Strouthers the District SWP Organiser for NW London describing Harlesden SWP as a group of 'anarcho syndicalists and thugs'
 
Even worse than Man U's "train seat" new home shirt that has been doing the rounds on social media in the last few days.

We're definitely in the horror movie of retro mid-90s kits, now. The new Man U kit re-visits the worst horrors of that era.
 
steeplejack said:
Even worse than Man U's "train seat" new home shirt that has been doing the rounds on social media in the last few days.

We're definitely in the horror movie of retro mid-90s kits, now. The new Man U kit re-visits the worst horrors of that era.
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:D I am probably the only person who likes those mid-90s kits.

I especially remember liking the Man U away kit which looked like stonewashed denim.

<goes off to look up train seat cover lookalikey kits>
 
It's one thing to like "retro" as promoted by TOFFS (60s / 70s shirts), quite another to call for the return of Ribero / Matchwinner monstrosities from the early-mid-90s. Norwich started this unfortunate trend with this season's re-hash of their vomit-flecked urinal shirt originally made by Ribero:
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The Man U "train seat" reminds me of these two catastrophes sported by Birmingham City and Scunthorpe in the mid 90s. These are vampires who need a fresh stake driven through their hearts, not invited back into the fold.

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BristolEcho said:
Tbf it's been going on for a while even in mainstream fashion retro is in.
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"Retro" as we understand it began with the 60s-in-the-80s, then the 70s-in-the-90s, the founding of TOFFS, and the likes of Denis Waterman fronting repeats of 70s Match of the Day episodes. Then there was the bizarre love form the 80s in the 2000s, I'dve hoped that the nineties would have been shat out by the 2010s, but it seems it's passing has been slowed by austerity and COVID-19.

My point being that not all retro things are things worth bringing back.
 
steeplejack said:
That whole trolling of the Weekly Worker letters page followed by angry denunciations from po-faced Trots of your impostor / sock-puppet piss-take still gladdens my heart.
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I still yearn for the days when Permanent Revolution offered a direct line to sort out any queries
As the Workers Solidarity Movement is an anarchist organisation that only exists in Ireland, it is doubtful that the Darlington WSM is real. The fact that Mitch Pileggi is the US actor who played FBI assistant director Walter Skinner in The X-Files might also be relevant to the authenticity of the letter.
A two-minute phone call with Permanent Revolution or five minutes on the web could have clarified this. It confirms what all serious socialists already know about the Weekly Worker its sloppy journalism means you cannot believe a word that is in it.
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