It's a better effort. Not exactly ground-breaking is it? I assume they're recording on a 4-track, which is nice to hear again, but they could use a decent producer.
None. But what about someone who had known him (in passing, moving in the same circles sort of thing, no particular loyalty) for quite a few years before he was anything to do with "Liverpool" (but who also happened to like Liverpool)? I'd say the information that that person had never heard them say anything like this would be relevant. Also i have posted on this board for a long time, quite a lot of people know me in real life, so maybe for a few people my opinion counts for something. it is not like i make a habit of getting into arguments for the sake of it, or making stuff up.Firstly, how much stock do you reckon a jury would put in a Liverpool fan's assessment of Steven Gerrard's character?
I am fully aware of this. i fully acknowledge this. If you ever understood me to say anything that disagrees, then it was a failing of my eloquence.And secondly, how many times do we have to go through the really basic idea that someone can be in many others ways be a perfectly decent human being (even behave decently toward people of other races) and still think and say racist things?
hey you can't talk, you've done some right mangled sentences at some points on this thread!Me fail English? But that's unpossible!
So you know them well enough to know that they "aren't racists" but not well enough to either ask them about the incident or have any loyalty to them. OK.None. But what about someone who had known him (in passing, moving in the same circles sort of thing, no particular loyalty) for quite a few years before he was anything to do with "Liverpool" (but who also happened to like Liverpool)? I'd say the information that that person had never heard them say anything like this would be relevant. Also i have posted on this board for a long time, quite a lot of people know me in real life, so maybe for a few people my opinion counts for something. it is not like i make a habit of getting into arguments for the sake of it, or making stuff up.
well maybe not, i'm sure you have lots worth listening to... but it is difficult to tell through mangled sentences and multiple layers of crypticism (is that a word), and then when you mix it in with general abuse well it is a surefire way of getting your message misunderstood.No mangled thinking though.
lying again.Anyone who is overheard by multiple people
well maybe not, i'm sure you have lots worth listening to... but it is difficult to tell through mangled sentences and multiple layers of crypticism (is that a word), and then when you mix it in with general abuse well it is a surefire way of getting your message misunderstood.
lying again.
That is really not true... look i obviously am not going to change your manner, i don't want to, but i've told you the truth of it: the way you expressed yourself was not clear.Good lord, i laid every single thing out for you in the way that nanker did, straightforwardly and simply - repeatedly. You ignored them because of who was saying them.
I'm no "apologist". you are. You apologised for the landlord of your favourite pub like this. I would not go in pub like this, even if you call it "brilliant".Don't call me a liar again. You racist apologist.
<gabi>:He is racist in an old school way. I noticed that the first few times I went there. He would stand at the door and bar certain people from entering, saying the place was full, when it clearly wasnt. He did have issues with Muslim Somalis just coming in to watch football, obviously without buying beer due to their religion. I think that was the main issue. But I think it's also a generational thing. I know thats an easy excuse, but for better or for worse I know some older people who are good people but have fucked up backwards views on race.
He also once threw me out because New Zealand (im a kiwi) thrashed Ireland in the rugby
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<someone else>: Sounds dreadful.
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<gabi>: No, quite to the contrary. It was a brilliant pub. Particularly when he wasn't about tho tbh.
I said this way back on page 5 or 6 or so. Just for clarification.as for what happened at the grosvenor well if it did happen as you say of course it's totally out of order.
the peculiar stench of ageing male jealousy hangs heavy over this thread.
stop talking about them, freak.
Dance, puppets!
this is a tiny sample of your attitude on this thread rutabowa,there's loads more, lucky for you i'm shite at this computer stuff.Back pedal now all ye want,your posh, boy band pals have left ye hang here...they're not worth it mateIt appears the 3 stooges have all got so wound up that they have become completely incoherent.
You said lots and lots of other things too didn't you? And you have refused to lift a finger to establish what happened. That's a way of turning a blind eye to potential racist behaviour on the part of your mates.I said this way back on page 5 or 6 or so. Just for clarification.
Tell me you are not seriously that dumb. Please.
Do you remember way back in june:
You total freak.
I feel a bit sorry for winding you up now...
You are obsessed. Oddball. Stop stalking me.
It was the content of your reply.I am being serious, stop stalking me.
Don't worry, leave him to it! He's talking to himself.
Lol bamalama reckons that if someone can string multiple sentences together that actually make sense then there must be something suspicious about it. "Begone with ur book learning! Tis witchcraft!!"
hm i don't think "turning a blind eye" is at all a fair phrase, given how much i have engaged with this thread. I get that you think i shd ask him (it is just 1 person yr talking about, not the whole band, right? or have i missed something?). I've explained why i haven't done. You could ask too, right? anyone could.You said lots and lots of other things too didn't you? And you have refused to lift a finger to establish what happened. That's a way of turning a blind eye to potential racist behaviour on the part of your mates.
To be fair, the examples you give are after a long barrage of you (and whats his face) spent ages being a childish dicks all over the thread.
The fact that you still can't help sticking in snide baiting, childish playground taunts is a bit of a giveaway too.
Yes, the single person supposed to have said racist stuff. He's your mate, you say you've known him years. Your justification for refusing to ask him doesn't stand up to a seconds critical scrutiny. Ask him - he's one step away from you. I don't know him. He's many steps away from me.hm i don't think "turning a blind eye" is at all a fair phrase, given how much i have engaged with this thread. I get that you think i shd ask him (it is just 1 person yr talking about, not the whole band, right? or have i missed something?). I've explained why i haven't done. You could ask too, right? anyone could.
nanker posted a link to his facebook. you are just as near to him as me.Ask him - he's one step away from you. I don't know him. He's many steps away from me.
I'm not on facebook. So, ball back in your court. Why so resistant - are you scared of what you'll find?nanker posted a link to his facebook. you are just as near to him as me.
nanker posted a link to his facebook. you are just as near to him as me.
Tough words from someone hidin behind a pseudonymFat Whites will be playing The Grosvenor on Friday night/Saturday morning as part of their club night Slide In. Quite clearly whatever it is that happened all those months ago is not quite as some of you are painting it here. If any of you people hiding behind pseudonyms would like to question the band, the barstaff, or the landlord of the Grosvenor as to what really happened, or why they are allowing the band to play there, please come along. If not, shut the fuck up.
Why can't you post it here Stuart? Simple enough if it never happened or didn't happened the way some people have suggested. That would be a good bit of management i reckon.Fat Whites will be playing The Grosvenor on Friday night/Saturday morning as part of their club night Slide In. Quite clearly whatever it is that happened all those months ago is not quite as some of you are painting it here. If any of you people hiding behind pseudonyms would like to question the band, the barstaff, or the landlord of the Grosvenor as to what really happened, or why they are allowing the band to play there, please come along. If not, shut the fuck up.