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Fat White Family & various offshoot bands (Moonlandingz, Insecure Men, Warmduscher, Pregoblin etc)

If any of you people hiding behind pseudonyms would like to question the band, the barstaff, or the landlord of the Grosvenor as to what really happened, or why they are allowing the band to play there, please come along. If not, shut the fuck up.

Is smiler747 your real name then?
 
Fair enough....still a fucking daft comment to make on a forum in which everybody operates under a user name.
Absolutely, and it changes nothing whether people are asking questions about what happened under user names or real names (like me). If people were making direct accusations it might - but they haven't been.
 
Oh don't get me wrong i love a bit of craic,i'm not complaining at all.The problem for me is ruts was in there with everyone else given it out,as a matter of fact if you care to go back he started it.He's just not very good at it,and he seems to have developed selective memory syndrome over the last few pages of painfully slow backtracking.The truth is never snide my friend,it's simply the truth.I'll ignore your other overly sensitive gibberish...

I don't need to go back, I remember reading your childish postings, hence my reply. You are still constantly goading with 'posh boy' nonsense.
I also can't see how he is backtracking. He is pretty much saying what he has always said. I think the problem is that other posters are claiming he said things that he didn't say. That's not backtracking.
He seems pretty adept at picking out quotes proving this, I can't see you pulling out any to prove your 'points'. Eh?
 
I don't need to go back, I remember reading your childish postings, hence my reply. You are still constantly goading with 'posh boy' nonsense.
I also can't see how he is backtracking. He is pretty much saying what he has always said. I think the problem is that other posters are claiming he said things that he didn't say. That's not backtracking.
He seems pretty adept at picking out quotes proving this, I can't see you pulling out any to prove your 'points'. Eh?
Ye don't see cos ye don't want to see...see my earlier post about your cognitive dissonance...er not so posh boy?Better?
Funny for instance how you constantly try to misrepresent banter as "goading",it's a two way street here my friend not a fwf gig.
Say it often enough and it becomes true though eh?
 
None. But what about someone who had known him (in passing, moving in the same circles sort of thing, no particular loyalty) for quite a few years before he was anything to do with "Liverpool" (but who also happened to like Liverpool)? I'd say the information that that person had never heard them say anything like this would be relevant. Also i have posted on this board for a long time, quite a lot of people know me in real life, so maybe for a few people my opinion counts for something. it is not like i make a habit of getting into arguments for the sake of it, or making stuff up.

Being generous, I'd say it was of very limited relevance as I don't think it makes the accusation any more or less likely to be true.


I am fully aware of this. i fully acknowledge this. If you ever understood me to say anything that disagrees, then it was a failing of my eloquence.

In that case, you'll understand why I think it's of such limited relevance. Your vehemence on this subject, and seeming refusal (with some minor couching) to entertain the possibility that the accusations might be true, based entirely on your limited personal knowledge of this guy, suggests that even if you do recognise this point, you're not happy to apply it to people you know and admire.
 
If that's the band manager posting on a thread where one of his charges is accused of openly using racist language, you'd guess if it was untrue, he'd deny it? Balance of probabilities again suggests it's true.
 
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Urbans fucked. That's all. Apologizing for racism, erm. That's all I have to say. Can't be arsed. Off to sleep.
 
Butchers, you're no more insignificant to me than before this thread. Which is a crying shame as it seems we actually agree on a couple of things here.
 
Do you agree with rutabowa and editor btw butchers? Just out of interest. That racism can be excused on the grounds that you enjoy their music?
 
Do you agree with rutabowa and editor btw butchers? Just out of interest. That racism can be excused on the grounds that you enjoy their music?
Have you read his posts? If you have, you'd know the answer to this. FWIW you've provided a convenient strawman for the apologists on this thread with your hyperbole and ill-informed guesswork.
 
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