farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
Piece of piss. The driver could put a brick on the pedals and help clean up the train along with kabbes
F*cking nightmare of a bastard commute
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BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
my favourites at teh moment are people face timing without headphones on quiet, silent carriages. i have a busy life. kids, stressful job, helping elderly parents. the half hour commute has become a sacred bit of me time, either to listen to music or sit in silence. but no Keith wants to talk loudly about his new kitchen and doesn't give a fuck who over hears. to me it's as rude as me sitting on a train banging a drum. snipers, please. in every carriage.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
the gradual invasion of technology into public spaces. people can't just do without can they. another fav is people playing music in parks on their speakers. it's the assumption that other people want to hear it. to me these are acts of public violence. i'm not joking, either. conciousness is sacred. there's an autonomy and somethign profound about being able to loose oneself in ones own thought without distraction. but oh no here's Keith again blasting Jay Z through the park. I'm big on manners. big on teaching kids how to live harmonously with others. don't care if it makes me old fashioned. doesn't the circle in the anarchy A symbolise order? allow each other space wtihout invasion, noise or otherwise.
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
Just remembered why I wanted to move out of Newcastle ...
Had the unpleasant experience of driving into the middle of town, via the northern route.
Still loads of roadworks [some long term] to slow you down.
Then went across part of a double roundabout, the approach has been massively "improved" when a bridge was rebuilt ... except it hasn't, as half the inbound side is now a "Bus Lane" and the roundabout should be lights controlled as the traffic pattern is unbalanced in the "rush hours".
A journey that should take perhaps 50 - 55 minutes took over an hour and 10 minutes.
[I was alongside that quite short Bus Lane for almost 10 minutes waiting to cross that roundabout - one double decker and a coach, plus five taxis and two motorbikes, in all that time ... ]
Had the unpleasant experience of driving into the middle of town, via the northern route.
Still loads of roadworks [some long term] to slow you down.
Then went across part of a double roundabout, the approach has been massively "improved" when a bridge was rebuilt ... except it hasn't, as half the inbound side is now a "Bus Lane" and the roundabout should be lights controlled as the traffic pattern is unbalanced in the "rush hours".
A journey that should take perhaps 50 - 55 minutes took over an hour and 10 minutes.
[I was alongside that quite short Bus Lane for almost 10 minutes waiting to cross that roundabout - one double decker and a coach, plus five taxis and two motorbikes, in all that time ... ]
ATOMIC SUPLEX
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'Big Society' and all that.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
You've got an objection to things being improved for bus passengers, at the expense of car drivers?
Buses in many places get stuck in traffic jams that are caused by private vehicles, and it's one of the things that puts people off using public transport. The more bus lanes the better.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
I’m on a bike with speakers aren’t I clever.
No your as big a shit as the lads in cars with big speakers vibrating windows as they go past. Worse because your slower.
T & P
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I was caught in the ultimate traffic jam on my way to LHR earlier today to pick up a friend, who was travelling with two heavy cases so public transport was not really feasible. From the start of the M4 proper (by the Sky HQ) to the airport, it took 2h 10m, due to junction 3 being closed this weekend for some incredibly stupid reason.At the start of the Easter half term holiday 
During a period in which the traffic was completely stationary for several minutes, and with my bladder about to burst, I had to get out and take a piss. On the fast lane. It’ll be interesting to see if I get a ticket through the post.
During a period in which the traffic was completely stationary for several minutes, and with my bladder about to burst, I had to get out and take a piss. On the fast lane. It’ll be interesting to see if I get a ticket through the post.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
T & P
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There were quite a few people driving on the hard shoulder. Which I reckon they might regret…might depends if you were hands-free
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
been commuting now every day nearly for hte past six months and can safely say, the idea of a silent train carriage or bus, other than the quiet chat of two or more people together, is over. finished. part of history. loud headphones, people rabbiting away into phones, people watching videos without headphones, people watching insta without headphones.
the quiet communal space of public transport is over. gone for good never to return.
parks are almost getting the same, especially in teh summer. there's a trendy yuppie foodmarket every sunday in mine selling alsorts of overpriced stuff and probably every third stall has got music playing. so instead of a busy bustling market where the sounds are people talkign and socialising, kids playing etc, it's beyonce bellowing out.
i sound like an old fart, and i knwo full well there are far more pressing problems in teh world lol. i just at a stage of my life where i see value and beauty in quiet and silence. i always associated right from a child public parks and public transport with that. i can remember my mum if i was being noisey on teh bus saying "quiet a bit, there's people around".
the quiet communal space of public transport is over. gone for good never to return.
parks are almost getting the same, especially in teh summer. there's a trendy yuppie foodmarket every sunday in mine selling alsorts of overpriced stuff and probably every third stall has got music playing. so instead of a busy bustling market where the sounds are people talkign and socialising, kids playing etc, it's beyonce bellowing out.
i sound like an old fart, and i knwo full well there are far more pressing problems in teh world lol. i just at a stage of my life where i see value and beauty in quiet and silence. i always associated right from a child public parks and public transport with that. i can remember my mum if i was being noisey on teh bus saying "quiet a bit, there's people around".
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
think it was althusser who went on about being captured by "the state ideological apparatus", that the contents of human conciousness is inherently and inescapably ideological. so from taht it makes sense to discover what in teh world is perhaps outside of that capturing. silence is one of them, like the ocean, or a mountain - without ideological taint, or something. Steve don't give a fuck though as he streams the Madrid PSG match from his phone without headphones on the 159 replacingn the silence.
and yes i am fun at parties
and yes i am fun at parties
teuchter
je suis teuchter
I agree some kind of threshold of acceptability seems to have been broached recently. To the point that it might be time to give up on the idea of most people being thoughtful about others on public transport...and travel with noise cancelling headphones or something.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
It’s just an extension of the me me me culture promoted by vacuous morons on those love island out of here things that seem to be constantly rolling on the dross-box, encouraging these people in the false belief that their life has some kind of meaning that others should give a shit about, therefore it’s fine to impose it on every cunt in the area.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
I think people use the journey as a chance to call people they need to. Oh a long boring train journey? Perfect for catching up with everyone. Notice next time a lot just go from one call to the next, filling the whole journey with natter. Fine in and of it’s self, but not so fine if it means the death of shared communal quiet space.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
There's the great final few scenes of clockers where the main character is given an escape route out of the city by Harvey Keitel, and ends up on a train out, having never left the city. He's staring ot the window. To me a journey has the power to change someone, as at last they are left alone with their own thoughts and lives with nothign to do other than sit. In my view, it's crazy to think that hte brain doesn't need time like that (and its supported by research - i think). my daily bus journey into work was instrumental i see looking back in healing after divorce - my brain at last given some space and quiet to work its way through the pain.
I've been in and around Buddhism for years and it's all the same principle. At last, just sit and see where you truly are. Dog walkers report the same. Here it is. One of my favoruite film endings.
I've been in and around Buddhism for years and it's all the same principle. At last, just sit and see where you truly are. Dog walkers report the same. Here it is. One of my favoruite film endings.
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BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
that's exactly it. to me the journeys are truly like mini vacations. my life (which i love) just doesn't stop.
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
A liminal space in which you are given the opportunity to just be.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
yep, teh system chucking us a bone.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
but even when someone is not noisey, it's very difficult to do - so look down the carriage next time and notice probably 80% staring at their phone. the idea of putting it away and staring out the window is alien to a lot of people. it's fair enough. but there's something natural and valuable about doing that. i know we are not that any more, but you think when we used to hunt, the wide distances of "nothign much going on". our brains have not changed that much since. dog walkers often report that they love the walk as much as the dog. there's a reason for that. there's not much going on, its prob the same route tehy take, but there's value in allowing the brain to function without constant magnetic pull into distraction.
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
I find it almost impossible.
Lucky though that my commute is by bicycle. The equivalent of a dog walk.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
a good experiment to see how deeply we are plugged in (and its not a judgement, i am just as bad as anyone else) is to go into a pret or busy cafe etc and choose a seat and sit facing everyone.
and just sit and have a coffee. with nothing. no newspaper. no phone out. no headphones. just sit and drink a coffee and watch people notice you and you can almost see them thinking what the fuck is that guy going doing.
as my mate said, "if you haven't got a window seat you're fucked" lol.
i find it very uncomfortable but i think that's what people used to do, no? they would have a pint or a coffee with NOTHING other than that simple act. again a small window of the brain operating without being pulled elsewehre.
and just sit and have a coffee. with nothing. no newspaper. no phone out. no headphones. just sit and drink a coffee and watch people notice you and you can almost see them thinking what the fuck is that guy going doing.
as my mate said, "if you haven't got a window seat you're fucked" lol.i find it very uncomfortable but i think that's what people used to do, no? they would have a pint or a coffee with NOTHING other than that simple act. again a small window of the brain operating without being pulled elsewehre.
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