Extinction Rebellion

[LDC]

Advertising for jobs on £38-40,000 so plenty of money. Labour MP Zara Sultana seems to be involved, and website talks about building towards a GND election, so suspect a Labour project maybe, or something aligned to try and 'grab the youth'?

Lol at the fact they're asking for support as 'organizing costs money' and then advertising jobs with them at £40k.

Spycops suspicion, really? Or was that a joke?

 

[ska invita]

Advertising for jobs on £38-40,000 so plenty of money. Labour MP Zara Sultana seems to be involved, and website talks about building towards a GND election, so suspect a Labour project maybe, or something aligned to try and 'grab the youth'?

Lol at the fact they're asking for support as 'organizing costs money' and then advertising jobs with them at £40k.

Spycops suspicion, really? Or was that a joke?

Half joking
I didn't read any of their gumpf tbf
They heckled Priti Patel today.
It is unusual to ask for a mobile imo

 

[LDC]

It is unusual to ask for a mobile imo

Not in nearly every political group outside the anarchist ones or similar though, and I think generationally it's pretty normal among younger folks (under 30s!).

 

[David Clapson]

Anyone come across this lot?

We’re rising up for climate justice - GND Rising

We are on a mission to take power out of the hands of the billionaires and the oil executives, and put it in the hands of our generation.

www.gndrising.org

Im immediately suspicious of some spycop thing as you have to include a mobile number to sign up!

Maybe it's the norm for activists to have an unregistered SIM card/burner phone? Edit: I know a couple of activists who use street names and Protonmail. I'm not an activist myself, but I'd have thought everyone is taking these steps nowadays.

 

[ska invita]

Maybe it's the norm for activists to have an unregistered SIM card/burner phone? Edit: I know a couple of activists who use street names and Protonmail. I'm not an activist myself, but I'd have thought everyone is taking these steps nowadays.

Yes sure that's if you're serious but this is clearly pitched at (young) concerned randoms. If they had any concerns about this there would be advice given about security

 

[DaveCinzano]

Anyone come across this lot?

We’re rising up for climate justice - GND Rising

We are on a mission to take power out of the hands of the billionaires and the oil executives, and put it in the hands of our generation.

www.gndrising.org

Im immediately suspicious of some spycop thing as you have to include a mobile number to sign up!

Of interest:

 

[hitmouse]

Putting this here cos it seems to sort of fit, Plan C are doing a Plan C thing in London soon, over the bank holidays, they're also asking people to register fwiw:

Beyond | We are Plan C

The end of the world is already here, in fact, we’ve been living through it for a long time. Be it the threat of nuclear war, financial meltdowns, the collapse of care systems, racist policing and more and harder borders or ecological destruction: it's the fully-fledged era of the crises of...

www.weareplanc.org

The end of the world is already here, in fact, we’ve been living through it for a long time. Be it the threat of nuclear war, financial meltdowns, the collapse of care systems, racist policing and more and harder borders or ecological destruction: it’s the fully-fledged era of the crises of capitalism. The climate crisis has gone from something happening decades from now to a full-blown apocalypse in just a few years. Headlines scream flood and fire, and we’ve learned new words: firenado, weather bomb, parts per million, wet bulb temperature.
Every day it’s clearer that we’re passing the limits of irreversible damage. We’re not going to be able to save the world as it was – but neither should we want to save the society that we have.. The multiplicity of crises is not going to be uprooted by more of the same. False solutions promised by government and business are not going to save us, but neither are tepid policy documents promising ‘green jobs’, tech solutions based on increased neo-colonial resource extraction tied with human rights abuse, nor the nihilism of dreams of our own extinction. We need to move, not ‘to’ the end of the world, but ‘beyond’ the end of the world.
The solutions that we adopt to respond to the climate crisis can and must confront all others. They will require us to imagine how we radically transform the way our lives and societies are organised. What does this future look like and how do we get there? Where are the fault lines in the crises that we can crack open? Where are the overlaps of struggles that we can strengthen? How do we steer away from defeatist, nationalist, racist and even authoritarian responses? How do we collectively transcend the end of the world?
Plan C invites you to a Climate Justice Convergence, on the occasion of our belated 10th anniversary. Learn and educate ourselves across workshops, discussions and talks // strategise and plan together at a movement-wide assembly // eat together at collective dinners // party together like the world is ending.
1-3 June 2022
Pelican House, Cambridge Road Bethnal Green, London

Tickets are free but you need to register

 

[platinumsage]

I like that they‘re being optimistic and working towards an actual future, and aren’t accusing non-attendees of being complicit in mass genocide.

 

[Rob Ray]

Alright this one I actually like, fair play to everyone involved: XR blockades private jet airport ahead of Davos talks

 

[Red Sky]

Alright this one I actually like, fair play to everyone involved: XR blockades private jet airport ahead of Davos talks

I'm sure they're immensely gratified to finally have your approval.

 

[Rob Ray]

Thank goodness you're here to defend them from my praise.

 

[teqniq]

Fucking outrageous but, alas unsurprising:

Patel’s anti-protest law ‘came from oil-funded think tank’

Controversial anti-protest law may have originated in briefing from Policy Exchange, our investigation reveals

www.opendemocracy.net

 

[AmateurAgitator]

From facefuck (Extinction Rebellion UK) -

BREAKING: Doctors for XR crack glass at JP Morgan as UK declares heatwave ‘national emergency’

This morning at 10 am six members of Doctors for XR carefully cracked eight panes of glass at financial services giant and investment bank JP Morgan’s offices in Canary Wharf. The group included two GPs, a child and adolescent mental health specialist, a gynecologist, a consultant psychiatrist and a dementia nurse. The medics placed stickers on the windows reading ‘in case of medical climate emergency break glass’ before carefully cracking the panes of glass near the entrance to the building. Special care was taken to ensure the safety of any staff and passersby present during the action. All six health professionals were arrested by police following the action.

The act of nonviolent civil disobedience comes in response to the British Government declaring the nation’s first ever level 4 national emergency heat red alert this week, ahead of predicted temperatures of 40 degrees celsius on Monday and Tuesday next week. A study published by the Met Office in May this year found that climate change is making heatwaves hotter and more frequent. Weather maps of the incoming heatwave are showing temperatures similar to recent Met Office predictions of predicted 2050 temperatures, the year of the UK Government’s net zero target.

Dr Juliette Brown, a Consultant Psychiatrist who took part in the action, said: “This week may see the hottest day in recorded history in the UK, putting my patients – people with dementia and with serious mental illness – at very high risk from heat stress. It’s absolutely my professional duty to sound the alarm just as so many other health workers, scientists, activists and leaders are doing. By continuing to profit from fossil fuel interests JP Morgan are knowingly fuelling this climate crisis.”
Child and adolescent mental health specialist and former mental health nurse, Ali Rowe, who took part in the action, said: “Medical activism is rooted in creating challenges and facing difficult truths when the very institutions that are there to serve us fail to do so.

“This is an act of deep love for all. We act to save lives from the imminent danger of this unprecedented heat wave that is upon us. We act now to stop the harm. It is a necessity.”

 

[platinumsage]

Renewables are bad because capitalism

 

[Rob Ray]

Renewables are bad because capitalism

That's not what they're saying though.

 

[edcraw]

That's not what they're saying though.

platinumsage is never the brightest.

 

[platinumsage]

That's not what they're saying though.

Yes it is, the wrong kind of renewables, not under the auspices of citizen assemblies.

 

[Rob Ray]

No it isn't. Their point is that

1. Capitalists aren't embracing renewables because of a change of heart and cannot be relied on to do it as they should for the good of humanity, what little they are doing is because it's profitable. They follow this up with a graph showing the actual (lack of) scope of how change is being implemented.
2. The actions of a civilisation that was coming together to build a more sustainably managed world would be very different to what we're actually seeing.

Neither of which is in any way similar to "Renewables are bad because capitalism." Tbh if you wanted to raise a valid critique you could have just said "well duh," though even so I imagine they're not aiming it at people with an existing critique of capitalism's sustainability propaganda.

 

[platinumsage]

No it isn't. Their point is that

1. Capitalism isn't embracing renewables because of a change of heart and cannot be relied on to do it as they should for the good of humanity, what little they are doing is because it's profitable. They follow this up with a graph showing the actual (lack of) scope of how change is being implemented.
2. The actions of a civilisation that was coming together to build a more sustainably managed world would be very different to what we're actually seeing.

Neither of which is in any way similar to "Renewables are bad because capitalism." Tbh if you wanted to raise a valid critique you could have just said "well duh," though even so I imagine they're not aiming it at people with an existing critique of capitalism's sustainability propaganda.

Nonsense, their point is that capitalism and anything done under it including government-subsidised renewables is bad, because it’s not what they would do if they were in control of everything. Their “civilisation that was coming together to build a more sustainably managed world” is their vision of such a civilistaion, not the real, messy one out there full of people who aren’t them.

Climate change seems pretty low down on their agenda.

 

[edcraw]

They do post a graph to show how well the move to renewables is going.



Knew you were a car nut but didn’t have you down as a climate change denier as well.

 

[Rob Ray]

Nonsense, their point is that...

As ever with your contributions to this thread, this seems to be you listening to your internal monologue on what people think, rather than reading what they've actually said. This is not a particularly useful way to approach the subject tbh. For example I could interpret the above as "what platinumsage really thinks is that we should be throwing flowers at the feet of industrialists and Tories for deigning to bless us with the seed of their majestic capital." Which I assume is not your actual position, but hey, if we're going with whatever massages our preconceptions ...

 

[platinumsage]

Yeah I’m not sure renewables would be rolled out more quickly under their fantasy full communism or whatever, but whatever.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

Pickman's model still hasn't expounded.

Seems to me that if martin-of-youtube is not Count Cuckula , then he is probably some other urban75 user who is always complaining about everyone else doing things wrong, and failing to expound.

I don't want to point any fingers but I've got my suspicions who he could be.

The paranoia about the possibility of Martin being on here is funny.

 

[8ball]

The paranoia about the possibility of Martin being on here is funny.

Clunes?

 

[ska invita]

A different men behaving badly

 

[platinumsage]

I see the soviets are gluing themselves to parliament today, perhaps national gallery paintings weren’t ridiculous enough.

 

[Pickman's model]

I see the soviets are gluing themselves to parliament today, perhaps national gallery paintings weren’t ridiculous enough.

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it might not be ridiculous when parliament was sitting but when the mps are not due back till monday it's not so great

 

[Red Sky]

it might not be ridiculous when parliament was sitting but when the mps are not due back till monday it's not so great

It's a great stunt.

 

[Pickman's model]

It's a great stunt.

i think we'll have to differ on this one

 

[edcraw]

Course it’s a good stunt - it’s got some publicity. Anyone disagreeing with the measure?