beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Very little sympathy for either tbh. One’s a car driver, the other almost certainly voted for Brexit.
Entirely unashamed anti car propaganda, and the more the better.
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maomao
普費斯
Guff.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
Not necessarily. Section 5 of the Criminal Damage Act 1971 provides lawful excuses for criminal damage. This includes:
"in order to protect property belonging to himself or another or a right or interest in property which was or which he believed to be vested in himself or another, and at the time of the act or acts alleged to constitute the offence he believed—
(i)that the property, right or interest was in immediate need of protection; and
(ii)that the means of protection adopted or proposed to be adopted were or would be reasonable having regard to all the circumstances."
...so for a farmer if he was awaiting movement of sick livestock, or was preparing for a time-critical harvest etc, this could be a valid defence. The CPS even states this clause "has been interpreted widely so that the proximity between the act of damage by the perpetrator and the damage he seeks to prevent may be remote, and the causal link tenuous."
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Right. I'm off to key some paintwork and slash some tyres.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Yeah but he'd need to convince a court that the action was reasonable. Given that the driver is standing next to him, presumably with the keys in his pocket, I'm not sure he could. The worst bit is knocking the bloke over at the end. People have done time for less. Remember the fellow who got 5 years for smashing up that Travelodge reception? And he didn't knock anyone over.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
I think so yes. Are you worried that car drivers are so dopey that they'd drive off without noticing I've slashed all their tyres and have an accident or something?
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
I am more interested in seeing the video of one big motherfucker catching you slashing his tyres, TBH.
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
We were talking about Richmond park a few pages back.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
Oh right, I thought such banter encouraged othering and led to more general violence on the road, but perhaps it was one of other car-abolitionists on this thread who said that.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
Those statistics of course bear no relation to the actual number of offences committed or number of dangerous actions taken by drivers and cyclists. They are especially meaningless given that all but a handful of the driver offences will be for parking, for which there is no cyclist equivalent.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Back when I was an irresponsible youth a friends house backed onto a pub carpark. We used to take great delight in letting as many tyres down as we could
Only got busted once, think it was the fastest I’ve ever run in my life 
maomao
普費斯
Because obviously minor property damage and violence against the person are in some way comparable.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
So drivers threatening to slash bike tyres is top bantz about minor damage, and won’t engender a drivers vs cyclists environment leading to greater conflict and violence on the roads? Good to know.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
I objected to the banter about speeding on rural roads because people getting killed by speeding vehicles is a real thing that kills real people, as in actual real people are killed by it. Many people who live in rural areas or have family in rural areas will have had direct experience of this and live with it as a constant background worry. Likewise, many cyclists will have had experience of their safety being directly threatened by vehicles on the roads and might know people who've been killed or had life changing injuries as a result. Again many people live with the background worry that their parent or partner or child is not going to come home that day because of something that happens on the road.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe that many motorists live in a state of anxiety that an "abolitionist" off the internet is going to come and damage their car. And even if they did, no-ones life or safety would be being threatened.
I hope this helps you understand some very basic concepts related to views on boundaries of what is or isn't ok to joke about.
maomao
普費斯
Yes with the minor proviso that there was no 'threatening'. That's your hyperbole.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
On reflection, I realise that in the time since I posted this, many car owners across the UK have been standing anxiously next to their motors ready to protect them and hoping that I don't show up with firearms or a "violent bike gang".
So I should apologise for all the trauma caused.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
This idea that stabbing up car tyres isn’t dangerous is simply wrong. I suppose if someone slit all four tyres and let the air out it would be obvious and the driver wouldn’t drive off, but most militant cyclists would be too feeble and scared to do much more than hack away at one tyre with their shitty penknife, potentially leading to a blow-out at speed and killing numerous members of families.
maomao
普費斯
This is why I stick to keying them and smashing the fucking headlights.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
I know cyclists don’t like lights but taking that out on cars seems a bit extreme.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Slashing is different from stabbing. No-one's proposed to stab any tyres.
maomao
普費斯
I only do the indicators, which drivers never use anyway.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Don't be daft. The Dalai Lama's fucked over more motors than this lot. The closest any of these wallies have got to slashing tyres or keying cars is wanking over vids of it on here!
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
teuchter will be unboxing one of his unopened Matchbox cars now, and scraping the key to his lunch box down the side of it, just to prove you wrong.Don't be daft. The Dalai Lama's fucked over more motors than this lot. The closest any of these wallies have got to slashing tyres or keying cars is wanking over vids of it on here!
teuchter
je suis teuchter
From this evening's stroll... Here's what happens when you let car owners make decisions for themselves. I think it must be a privately owned street. The car owners have decided that their convenience, sadly, just has to override the needs of anyone with mobility issues, anyone in a wheelchair, anyone pushing a buggy or pulling a trolley or with a sight impairment. They've thought it all through and no doubt it was a difficult decision, but unfortunately needs must.
They are free of the restrictions imposed by the state that apply to most streets. They'd like everywhere to be like this, a free for all, only the strongest survive. No more of their taxes wasted on traffic wardens and so on. They'd get rid of the NHS too and go to their private hospitals with giant car parks positioned far away from public transport so that they didn't have to mix with the wrong type of people. They would shoot all old people, because they take too long to cross the road, and complain too much if you run then over.
I bet some people who post on this thread live on this street. Or maybe they live round the corner and just park here.
They are free of the restrictions imposed by the state that apply to most streets. They'd like everywhere to be like this, a free for all, only the strongest survive. No more of their taxes wasted on traffic wardens and so on. They'd get rid of the NHS too and go to their private hospitals with giant car parks positioned far away from public transport so that they didn't have to mix with the wrong type of people. They would shoot all old people, because they take too long to cross the road, and complain too much if you run then over.
I bet some people who post on this thread live on this street. Or maybe they live round the corner and just park here.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Imagine that, being able to park where you want on your own property! Next thing you know those cunts will be deciding for themselves what they want to eat! Won't somebody think of imaginary people who might trespass onto their property with a pram!
I don’t think you know what “trespass” and/or “private road” mean.Imagine that, being able to park where you want on your own property! Next thing you know those cunts will be deciding for themselves what they want to eat! Won't somebody think of imaginary people who might trespass onto their property with a pram!
