Entirely unashamed anti car propaganda, and the more the better.

[Boris Sprinkler]

I hope the anti-carists on this thread are counting their lucky stars they don't live in a more pro-car country than the UK, such as Denmark.

Here's a typical Danish beach, and yes, those are all cars:

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At least in the UK we strike a reasonable balance when it comes to such things and you can relax with your family on any typical sandy beach without being worried about getting run over.

This is nonsense and you know it.

 

[liquidindian]

Boris is a keen cyclist by the way. Just saying.

You know who else was a vegetarian? Eh? Eh? Eh??!

 

[liquidindian]

Helping the elderly access the internet was a mistake.

 

[edcraw]

 

[platinumsage]

A good point at the end about the disproportionate impact on the working class:

The pernicious creep of the 20mph zone

‘Twenty is plenty’ say the passive-aggressive road signs as you drive very slowly through 20mph zones all over Britain. The slogan is accompanied by a cartoon drawing of a snail. Then you get a frowny-frowny-frowny electronic sign and you slow from 25 to 20 to make it turn into a smiley face...

www.spectator.co.uk

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

No. It’s not good point as to why speed limits are a bad thing. it’s tenuous at best.
It’s a good point as to why capitalism is a bad thing.

 

[edcraw]

A good point at the end about the disproportionate impact on the working class:

The pernicious creep of the 20mph zone

‘Twenty is plenty’ say the passive-aggressive road signs as you drive very slowly through 20mph zones all over Britain. The slogan is accompanied by a cartoon drawing of a snail. Then you get a frowny-frowny-frowny electronic sign and you slow from 25 to 20 to make it turn into a smiley face...

www.spectator.co.uk

platinumsage: I’m not right wing.

Also platinumsage: Here’s an article from The Spectator.

Alright Nadine

 

[edcraw]

Also love the faux concern for Deliveroo drivers. Yeah it’s 20mph limits that makes their jobs shitty!

The pro-car lot really are right wing nutters.

The lack of self awareness is truly deafening. No wonder your fellow Piers Morgan wannabes have deserted this thread!

 

[edcraw]

Those 20mph limits are just frankly awful aren’t they? I mean I don’t mind, it’s those poor little felllows on those Deliveroo scooters I feel sorry for. It’s awful, just awful.

 

[Spymaster]

The lack of self awareness is truly deafing.

Nothing like a good deafing.

 

[edcraw]

Stop picking on Nadine.

I really hate it when people edit their posts after someone’s quoted them.

 

[Spymaster]

 

[edcraw]

 

[Spymaster]

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Straight out of your wank bank, Ed?

 

[edcraw]

Jeremy Vine speaks for us all as usual.

 

[liquidindian]

I was all for reducing road deaths but then I heard Vespas are less fun.

 

[platinumsage]

This is typical of anti-car propagandists. Cite some harm and claim total elimination of the chosen target as the best and most desirable option, and that such elimination is viable and the method to achieve it is effective (e.g. buses4all).

However when the detail is analsyed, the aim (eradication) is found to unachievable and undesirable, and the method half-baked and unworkable. The benefits of the target are ignored, and elimination not justified by the harms caused.

Scientists design contraceptives to limit grey squirrels

The project's aim is to help protect ecosystems and native red squirrel populations.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[teuchter]

If you’re pissing Kirstie Allsopp off you must be doing something right!!

What a numpty she is.

 

[teuchter]

Cite some harm and claim total elimination of the chosen target as the best and most desirable option, and that such elimination is viable and the method to achieve it is effective (e.g. buses4all).

However when the detail is analsyed, the aim (eradication) is found to unachievable and undesirable, and the method half-baked and unworkable. The benefits of the target are ignored, and elimination not justified by the harms caused.

Sounds like the attempts throughout most of the 20th century to reduce road congestion by building more roads.

 

[edcraw]

This is typical of anti-car propagandists. Cite some harm and claim total elimination of the chosen target as the best and most desirable option, and that such elimination is viable and the method to achieve it is effective (e.g. buses4all).

However when the detail is analsyed, the aim (eradication) is found to unachievable and undesirable, and the method half-baked and unworkable. The benefits of the target are ignored, and elimination not justified by the harms caused.

Scientists design contraceptives to limit grey squirrels

The project's aim is to help protect ecosystems and native red squirrel populations.

www.bbc.co.uk

Nads - you do realise you’ve posted a link about squirrels yeah?

 

[platinumsage]

I guess the driver might have been distracted by a grey squirrel:

Woman dead after bus crashes into shelter at Piccadilly

Three people were struck by the bus, according to GMP

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

 

[edcraw]

I guess the driver might have been distracted by a grey squirrel:

Woman dead after bus crashes into shelter at Piccadilly

Three people were struck by the bus, according to GMP

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Squirel contraceptives, bus crashes - think you’ve got the wrong thread Nads.

 

[Chz]

What a numpty she is.

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I'm surprised anyone even bothered to engage with her. One of the few non-politicians to manage to be on my "utter, irredeemable cunt" list.

 

[edcraw]

The stories are all f***ing nuts obviously.

 

[edcraw]

Looks like this thread is having a very real effect!!

The big idea: should cars be banned from cities?

Streets have been optimised for one thing: traffic. A kind of ‘urban rewilding’ could return them to the complex social ecosystems they once were

www.theguardian.com

 

[platinumsage]

Looks like this thread is having a very real effect!!

The big idea: should cars be banned from cities?

Streets have been optimised for one thing: traffic. A kind of ‘urban rewilding’ could return them to the complex social ecosystems they once were

www.theguardian.com

An article published by the Guardian and written by two people who are residents of the Netherlands does not equate to any sort of effect on transport policy in the UK.

 

[teuchter]

An article published by the Guardian and written by two people who are residents of the Netherlands does not equate to any sort of effect on transport policy in the UK.

This is just the kind of comment someone would write if they were really worried that UK transport policy was swinging towards a horrifying north korea style approach where the urban environment was designed for disgusting pedestrians instead of superior beings entombed within vast, gleaming Volvos.

 

[edcraw]

Disappointed to see Rob Stewart come out against cycle lanes.

 

[platinumsage]

This is just the kind of comment someone would write if they were really worried that UK transport policy was swinging towards a horrifying north korea style approach where the urban environment was designed for disgusting pedestrians instead of superior beings entombed within vast, gleaming Volvos.

Have you been to North Korea? The urban environment is designed for cars but there aren’t any. Gleaming Volvos for all would improve life for everyone, and I’m sure would be preferred by the population compared to ripping up the roads and making everyone walk around in the mud.

 

[edcraw]

Have you been to North Korea? The urban environment is designed for cars but there aren’t any. Gleaming Volvos for all would improve life for everyone, and I’m sure would be preferred by the population compared to ripping up the roads and making everyone walk around in the mud.

Every sensible person: We should ban cars.

platinumsage: yOuR jUsT LiKe NoRtH kOrEA.

Also platinumsage: North Korea is the perfect country it just needs a few more cars.