Entirely unashamed anti car propaganda, and the more the better.

[edcraw]

So many drivers regularly break the law that Lambeth has issued £22m in fines. A real indictment of how terrible so many drivers are.

Lambeth: £22m in low-traffic fines an abuse of power, say campaigners

Lambeth Council made £22m fining drivers for entering controversial low-traffic neighbourhood zones.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Artaxerxes]

So many drivers regularly break the law that Lambeth has issued £22m in fines. A real indictment of how terrible so many drivers are.

Lambeth: £22m in low-traffic fines an abuse of power, say campaigners

Lambeth Council made £22m fining drivers for entering controversial low-traffic neighbourhood zones.

www.bbc.co.uk

BuT cYcLiStS RuN rEd LiGhTs

 

[platinumsage]

Those fines were probably mostly paid by disabled people who had no choice because they were being experimented on:

"Sofia Sheakh, a disabled Lambeth resident who is 'heavily reliant' on her car, lost a High Court battle against Lambeth Council last year.

She had argued the authority had failed to consult residents properly over the introduction of LTNs, which had 'negative impacts' on those with disabilities.

But a High Court judge ruled the scheme was 'a genuine experiment'."

 

[liquidindian]

Can you expand on "no choice", please?

 

[edcraw]

Those fines were probably mostly paid by disabled people who had no choice because they were being experimented on:

"Sofia Sheakh, a disabled Lambeth resident who is 'heavily reliant' on her car, lost a High Court battle against Lambeth Council last year.

She had argued the authority had failed to consult residents properly over the introduction of LTNs, which had 'negative impacts' on those with disabilities.

But a High Court judge ruled the scheme was 'a genuine experiment'."

OneLambeth spent £55k on failed legal cases with none of the donors actually mentioning anything about people with disabilities or any disability charities supporting their action. Pretty distasteful of the selfish drivers tbh. If they were smart they could have used that money a lot more effectively rather than just handing it over to lawyers.

 

[platinumsage]

Can you expand on "no choice", please?

No

 

[platinumsage]

No doubt all the anti-car people will vote Conservative if Nadhim Zahawi wins the leadership - anything to reduce the number of drivers must be good, right?

Nadhim Zahawi to ban drug dealers from road

Drug dealers would be banned from driving for two years under a set of crime-fighting policies to be unveiled by Nadhim Zahawi today.All offenders convicted of

www.thetimes.co.uk

 

[teuchter]

All offenders convicted of any “vehicle-enabled” crime would also have their licence revoked,

Sounds good to me - get speeding drivers off the road, which should reduce the number of cars by about 80%.

 

[platinumsage]

All offenders convicted of any “vehicle-enabled” crime would also have their licence revoked,

Sounds good to me - get speeding drivers off the road, which should reduce the number of cars by about 80%.

He's probably talking about armed robbery and suchlike. Nevertheless it's good to know what sort of Tory you would vote for.

 

[liquidindian]

No

Got it. Just say things, it doesn't matter.

On that road you can drive in one direction and get fined, or drive in the other direction and not get fined. I reckon that's a choice.

 

[edcraw]

The pro car lot are basically our version of the NRA. (That doesn’t make you Charlton Heston platinumsage )

 

[IC3D]

No doubt all the anti-car people will vote Conservative if Nadhim Zahawi wins the leadership - anything to reduce the number of drivers must be good, right?

Nadhim Zahawi to ban drug dealers from road

Drug dealers would be banned from driving for two years under a set of crime-fighting policies to be unveiled by Nadhim Zahawi today.All offenders convicted of

www.thetimes.co.uk

 

[platinumsage]

The pro car lot are basically our version of the NRA. (That doesn’t make you Charlton Heston platinumsage )

I couldn't imagine anyone doing that in a Volvo...

 

[liquidindian]

I've heard of that, it's called aphantasia.

 

[platinumsage]

Tour de France disrupted by climate protesters

The blockade was claimed by activist group Dernière Rénovation, which had previously protested at the French Open.

www.politico.eu

 

[maomao]

Tour de France disrupted by climate protesters

The blockade was claimed by activist group Dernière Rénovation, which had previously protested at the French Open.

www.politico.eu

Good. It's a parade of vans, cars and motorbike cameramen anyway. They shouldn't be allowed support vehicles.

 

[platinumsage]

They’d still rely on roads, since they’re using road bikes.

Should be muddy fields and no machinery at all:

The National Cross Country Championships | English Cross Country Association

www.englishcrosscountry.co.uk

 

[kabbes]

They don’t even have baskets on the front of their bikes

 

[maomao]

They’d still rely on roads, since they’re using road bikes.

Should be muddy fields and no machinery at all:

The National Cross Country Championships | English Cross Country Association

www.englishcrosscountry.co.uk

There were roads before there were cars but apart from that we're in agreement.

 

[liquidindian]

Tour de France disrupted by climate protesters

The blockade was claimed by activist group Dernière Rénovation, which had previously protested at the French Open.

www.politico.eu

I failed to see how this fit the thread until I read it.

"Italian cyclist Alberto Bettiol, who was leading the race in the Haute-Savoie region of eastern France, managed to swerve around the protesters"

Fair enough.

 

[maomao]

Very good news from Wales. A third of the way to my desired speed limit for cars.

Wales to lower default national speed limit to 20mph

The reductions are being trialled in eight communities but will be rolled out nationally in 2023

www.theguardian.com

 

[edcraw]

Tour de France disrupted by climate protesters

The blockade was claimed by activist group Dernière Rénovation, which had previously protested at the French Open.

www.politico.eu

Good to see you support climate activists. Maybe you’re not a complete prat.

 

[tommers]

BMW starts selling heated seat subscriptions for $18 a month

Now being sold in South Korea, the UK, and elsewhere

www.theverge.com

$18 a month for heated seats!?!

Anything to make that shiny metal box more comfortable.

 

[Chz]

BMW starts selling heated seat subscriptions for $18 a month

Now being sold in South Korea, the UK, and elsewhere

www.theverge.com

$18 a month for heated seats!?!

Anything to make that shiny metal box more comfortable.

I really don't see the problem with that. So long as they offer an "unlimited" option, how is it worse than paying up front? They get to reduce the number of different configurations they make, which makes it easier to buy one off the forecourt because all of them will have heated seats and it's up to you to decide if you want it or not. Better yet, you can change your mind.

 

[platinumsage]

I really don't see the problem with that. So long as they offer an "unlimited" option, how is it worse than paying up front? They get to reduce the number of different configurations they make, which makes it easier to buy one off the forecourt because all of them will have heated seats and it's up to you to decide if you want it or not. Better yet, you can change your mind.

Who do you think pays the additional cost for all the cars to be manufactured with all the options? The consumer of course. Lots of cars being driven around with unused kit is wasteful and expensive.

 

[maomao]

Best way to keep BMW seats warm is to set fire to the BMW.

 

[Chz]

Who do you think pays the additional cost for all the cars to be manufactured with all the options? The consumer of course. Lots of cars being driven around with unused kit is wasteful and expensive.

They save just as much money by manufacturing fewer configurations and not having unpopular ones sit around on lots for longer. Plus I don't believe for one instant that the sticker price of a BMW bears any relation to its construction cost.

 

[teuchter]

Who do you think pays the additional cost for all the cars to be manufactured with all the options? The consumer of course. Lots of cars being driven around with unused kit is wasteful and expensive.

Quite bizarre to be concerned about the wastefulness of some resistance wires in a seat when one of the fundamental problems of cars is that they are massive lumps of material resources that sit around unused for most of their existence - taking up space that could be put to more socially beneficial uses.

What's wasteful is kit that is unused 95% of the time, which is why we should get rid of private ownership of cars and have a much reduced pool for communal use instead.

 

[platinumsage]

Quite bizarre to be concerned about the wastefulness of some resistance wires in a seat when one of the fundamental problems of cars is that they are massive lumps of material resources that sit around unused for most of their existence - taking up space that could be put to more socially beneficial uses.

What's wasteful is kit that is unused 95% of the time, which is why we should get rid of private ownership of cars and have a much reduced pool for communal use instead.

Not really, cars loose value the more they're driven. If they're used 24/7 they will be scrapped well before they otherwise would have been.

Anyway, are all the rooms in your home used at all times, or are you so wasteful as to sequest rooms for your family's exclusive use that are empty 95% of the time. Have you propsed your street has a single shared toilet for example, allowing you all to convert your bathrooms to sleeping accomodation for those in need?

 

[edcraw]

Not really, cars loose value the more they're driven. If they're used 24/7 they will be scrapped well before they otherwise would have been.

Anyway, are all the rooms in your home used at all times, or are you so wasteful as to sequest rooms for your family's exclusive use that are empty 95% of the time. Have you propsed your street has a single shared toilet for example, allowing you all to convert your bathrooms to sleeping accomodation for those in need?

Fuck me - you really keep outdoing yourself mad Nads.