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What interim measures do you think would be suitable in the meantime to stop people getting run over by cunts?
Entirely unashamed anti car propaganda, and the more the better.
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What interim measures do you think would be suitable in the meantime to stop people getting run over by cunts?
But it would help us cunts not have to read your boring bollocks on the internet.
Measures to reduce the amount of traffic on urban streets eg. LTNs, road pricing, congestion charging etc. are one way. Obviously doesn’t stop it but reduces the danger as they reduce the frequency vehicles come into conflict with vehicles.
Better than throwing your hands up in the air and saying nothing can be done until we make it physically impossible for drivers to run people over in some far off time in the future.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
If only there was a way perhaps one that has been shown to work I just can’t think of anything at all it’s a real problem oh well best we just stick with allowing cars unrestricted access everywhere their owners want (cont. p.94)
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You won’t find many people in Tokyo who profess to be “anti-car” - it doesn’t take fervent abolitionist zealotry to create cities with decent transport arrangements, in fact such stances tend to be counter-productive.
liquidindian
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teuchter
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8ball
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Good follow-up, I agree on both counts. The example of Copenhagen in the video shows a city that is hardly “anti-car”, but isn’t car-dependent.
You can have low car-dependency and still wind up giving a lot of space over to cars, though.
But anyway, I’m trying to take a break from the religion wars at the wars at the moment <crosses self> - just took the thread off ignore for a minute because I thought there were some ideas there.
teuchter
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One reason that Copenhagen has ended up as it has, is that unlike many other European cities it did not pursue post-war road building schemes. It did not build the things like ring roads that most places did. Apparently this was initially down to a lack of money, but this delayed things enough that by the time that such things could have been built, it had already been seen what damage they had done to other cities, and Copenhagen made a positive decision not to do the same. That is an anti car decision, especially in context of what was happening elsewhere.
Regarding Tokyo - ask most residents if they'd like their streets converted to something more like the European standard model and I reckon you'd find pretty quickly that they were "anti-car".
platinumsage
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Nonsense - being against ring roads doesn't make someone anti-car. I think Coventry for example would be much nicer for motorists if it didn't have a ring road.
liquidindian
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I suppose the video isn't that anti-car apart from showing the way cars make streets more dangerous, how to improve streets by removing cars, better uses of parking spaces than storing cars, a city making alternatives to cars more tempting, being down on car-centric cities, and so on.
8ball
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If you want a propaganda thread, call it whatever you like. If you want a thread on better forms of urban planning that gets posted on by more people interested in similar ideas but less interested in weird tribal bunfights, maybe make another thread.
This was the closest thread I could think of for that particular video. There are loads of ideas aside from those, obv.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
I've done plenty of threads like that. Not much point just talking to people who already agree though - and they often end up as tribal bunfights regardless.
With this thread I decided just to go straight for antagonistic propaganda. It's been incredibly popular and successful and has even influenced national policy and mainstream journalism so I'm pretty pleased with the results.
cupid_stunt
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beesonthewhatnow
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My kids school has started publishing a weekly newsletter to parents, listing all the registration numbers who have broken the car free street zone rules at drop-off/pickup times 
Anyone who gets a repeat mention is being reported to the police
Anyone who gets a repeat mention is being reported to the police
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
It was me who got the headteacher to put the school forward to take part in the scheme in the first place
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Anyone who gets a repeat mention is being reported to the police
Then what?
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Fines I think.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
beesonthewhatnow
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“Driving in the Pedestrian & Cycle Zone during the identified times that this restriction is in place is a moving traffic offence, so it is the Police who are the enforcing body and they are able to issue a £50 fixed penalty fine to anyone caught driving here without permission.”
From:
Report
From:
Report
liquidindian
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Isn't this one of the minor offences that councils are/will be collecting fines for rather than the police? I imagine they'll be keener to collect.
beesonthewhatnow
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See previous post
liquidindian
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Sorry for the Mail link, this may change in June, though councils need to apply for these powers: Councils to get powers from 1 June to fine drivers for minor offences
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
There’s similar schemes popping up all over the country.
Yep, same with community speeding efforts, none has the authority to issue fines and their evidence on its own is not enough for plod to do so either. A stern letter is the weapon in the arsenal here.
