Entirely unashamed anti car propaganda, and the more the better.

[liquidindian]

More pedestrians are killed by buses than motorbikes

Per mile?

 

[platinumsage]

Per mile?

Yes, London is also especially good at using buses to kill pedestrians:

Find an Answer | London City Hall

www.london.gov.uk

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Big red death machines.

 

[liquidindian]

I'm convinced. Buses are incredibly dangerous, and anything more dangerous than buses should be outlawed.

 

[platinumsage]

I'm convinced. Buses are incredibly dangerous, and anything more dangerous than buses should be outlawed.

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The question was whether they were more dangerous to pedestrians than motorbikes, an important consideration when proposing that motorbikes should be banned from Oxford Street but that buses should not. Well, important if you care about pedestrians not dying.

 

[liquidindian]

Looking at the stats for motorbikes we should encourage as much motorbiking as possible as it looks like that will eventually solve itself.

 

[liquidindian]

The question

Yes but you've really helped with some broader questions too. Thank you.

 

[platinumsage]

Looking at the stats for motorbikes we should encourage as much motorbiking as possible as it looks like that will eventually solve itself.

The same applies to bicycles and pedestrians. It would be safest if everyone drove everywhere in their car. We already know this.

 

[liquidindian]

It would be safest if everyone drove everywhere in their car.

I like this. Maybe big cars that can carry between 40 and 80 people at once.

 

[platinumsage]

I like this. Maybe big cars that can carry between 40 and 80 people at once.

Yes, although you'd have to ban pedestrians otherwise there would be carnage.

 

[T & P]

It’s almost as if the large proportion of London’s pedestrians behaving irresponsibly could have something to do with their being injured or killed by buses and other vehicles more often than in cities where pedestrians perform the basic function of looking before crossing…

 

[liquidindian]

Create massive zones just for them. Call it walker-isation or something like that.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

I’m not saying all BMW drivers are thick as mince, but the evidence does keep presenting itself

 

[platinumsage]

I’m not saying all BMW drivers are thick as mince, but the evidence does keep presenting itself

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Not much point adding more grip to the driven wheels if you don't have enough grip to steer is there?

 

[platinumsage]

This is what happens when people get it into their heads you should cycle everywhere.

A thread of dangerous and foolish cyclists delighting in how they endanger themselves and others:

 

[Spymaster]

I’m not saying all BMW drivers are thick as mince, but the evidence does keep presenting itself

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edcraw drives a Beamer !

Who knew?

 

[liquidindian]

A thread of dangerous and foolish cyclists delighting in how they endanger themselves and others:

Crazy, we've all seen how often cars slam into trees when they're not on the road, this really is inviting disaster.

 

[teuchter]

The car paradigm destroyed communities and cities. It is more than time to mend the errors of decades of bad decisions.

 

[edcraw]

Gran, 92, seriously injured after BMW ploughs into living room as she slept

"All I could see was devastation. It was frightening."

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

 

[teuchter]

More irresponsible behaviour from the elderly, who only have this coming if they insist on living in dangerous houses that are placed in the path of out of control vehicles. A speed limit wouldn't have prevented this, because the driver was probably using speed to get out of danger during an overtaking manoeuvre. What would have prevented this would have been to demolish the house.

 

[platinumsage]

More irresponsible behaviour from the elderly, who only have this coming if they insist on living in dangerous houses that are placed in the path of out of control vehicles. A speed limit wouldn't have prevented this, because the driver was probably using speed to get out of danger during an overtaking manoeuvre. What would have prevented this would have been to demolish the house.

Don't be silly, it's obviously the car driver's fault and this means we must ban cars. Everything that ever causes damage, injury or death must be banned.

 

[Spymaster]

The car paradigm destroyed communities and cities. It is more than time to mend the errors of decades of bad decisions.

tb;dc

 

[T & P]

Gran, 92, seriously injured after BMW ploughs into living room as she slept

"All I could see was devastation. It was frightening."

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Driving Standards thread that way —->

 

[platinumsage]

The car paradigm destroyed communities and cities. It is more than time to mend the errors of decades of bad decisions.

Beeching did it for the community-dividing railways that were destructively splurged everywhere in the 19th century, perhaps we need another bold hero like him to tear up our roads.

 

[teuchter]

Beeching did it for the community-dividing railways that were destructively splurged everywhere in the 19th century, perhaps we need another bold hero like him to tear up our roads.

Correct. Transport policy at that time moved traffic from one mode with disruptive infrastructure to an even more disruptive one. We now need heros to correct that mistake and move back to the least bad option. Each time you post on this thread it brings this message closer to a potential hero.

 

[platinumsage]

Correct. Transport policy at that time moved traffic from one mode with disruptive infrastructure to an even more disruptive one. We now need heros to correct that mistake and move back to the least bad option. Each time you post on this thread it brings this message closer to a potential hero.

I'm glad you admit that railways are disruptive and are consequently against HS2. The least disruptive infrastructure is of course none, people will have to walk everywhere across muddy fields, like in the good olden days.

 

[teuchter]

I'm glad you admit that railways are disruptive and are consequently against HS2. The least disruptive infrastructure is of course none, people will have to walk everywhere across muddy fields, like in the good olden days.

My extremist position is that we should build transport infrastructure that strikes a balance between allowing everyone to move around freely and easily, and minimising the extent to which people's living environment is dominated by such infrastructure.

Of course you take the more moderate position that smashing cars into elderly people's houses is a fair price to pay in return for allowing those who can afford BMWs to get everywhere they want to without having to interact with the lower classes, and consequently you are against the 92 year old woman using up taxpayer resources by being taken to hospital.

 

[liquidindian]

Driving Standards thread that way —->

I tried to slow down and follow the signs to that thread but instead stamped on the accelerator by mistake and slammed into a house.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

My extremist position is that we should build transport infrastructure that strikes a balance between allowing everyone to move around freely and easily, and minimising the extent to which people's living environment is dominated by such infrastructure.

Of course you take the more moderate position that smashing cars into elderly people's houses is a fair price to pay in return for allowing those who can afford BMWs to get everywhere they want to without having to interact with the lower classes, and consequently you are against the 92 year old woman using up taxpayer resources by being taken to hospital.

Quite. It's a national scandal how often elderly people's houses get smashed into. We ought to start a petition.

 

[liquidindian]

It's a national scandal

Britain most dangerous home? The house hit by cars 21 TIMES since 2015

Sue Pile has been left feeling 'unsafe in her own home,' after cars and even a tractor crashed through her home in Combe Martin, Devon, 21 times since she moved their in 2015.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The Bristol neighbourhood where cars keep crashing into the houses

"If I’d been locking the door at 10pm, I would be dead"

www.bristolpost.co.uk

Holt house hit by three cars 'at risk of collapse'

In the latest incident, a car crashed through the lounge, leaving the house unstable, its owner said.

www.bbc.co.uk

Peterborough house hit by car for second time in three years - leading to speed bump call

A Peterborough woman has spoken of her shock after a car crashed into her home for the second time in three years.

www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk

I'll sign it if you think it will help.