nick
Pleomorphic Adenomas R us
My (non-cheaty) bike talks to my phone.Isn’t your bike one of those cheating ones though?
Entirely unashamed anti car propaganda, and the more the better.
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beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Di2?
nick
Pleomorphic Adenomas R us
Yep - plus (not exactly integrated with the bike) sensors on cranks and wheels to talk to my Garmin to tell me that I am fat and slow
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
A heartwarming tale in two parts.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Marketing bollocks for the terminally gullible. You’ve got to be a massive wanker to have a personalised plate anyway, selling something as “4D” seems an easy leap to make for those dickheads.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
A heartwarming tale in two parts.
Not at all heart warming.
Uninsured vehicles should be summarily crushed.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Well, yes. But you’ve got to feel at least some sense of joy at the sight of one dickhead being nicked for exactly the same offence after turning up to rescue another dickhead
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
This argument is always ridiculous. So what if cars take up space? Think of all the space that houses take up compared to the people inside them. Does that mean everyone should live in dormitory towers? No, it doesn't.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
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It’s no surprise to see other people invoking the same comparison, because it’s so valid that no one ever has any response to it other than stuff like “oh that’s not the same” or “more whataboutery”, or, as is the case here, people revealing that they don’t know what a dichotomy is.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
If the amount of space that stuff takes up - whether it's transport or housing - doesn't matter, I wonder why people like you get into such a fret about road space being used up by cycle lanes?
It's because you want rich people who can afford to buy cars and land to have loads of space while everyone else is crammed into what's left over, because that's what they deserve for not working hard enough.
Of course you don't want poor people to get too close to you - that's why you drive a giant, aggressively designed vehicle, want all roads to be motorways, and probably put electrified security fencing around your acres of land.
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HaveMyPassword123
Cyclists take up more space than a car though, so it's no surprise that they're usually wealthy tech-types etc. Car drivers are far more reflective of the general population - mostly working class.
Look at the space being occupied by this massive saloon car compared to the space required by the cyclist:
teuchter
je suis teuchter
The annotation is incorrect. The version below correctly shows the space that is needed for a cyclist, and the additional space that is needed to introduce a car that is impatient and wants to overtake the cyclist. Of course, even if the car didn't want to overtake, it would still need more space.
Note also that a policeman also takes up as much space as a cyclist. So in your world, you'd also ban policemen, which would suit you fine, because why should your taxes be used to fund the police when you have already paid for your own security guards patrolling your massive property (which is even bigger since you bought up the adjacent social housing and had it demolished)?
But in any case, you say that the amount of space stuff takes up doesn't matter. So it's a bit silly to then launch into a complaint about one type of vehicle needing more space than another.
Note also that a policeman also takes up as much space as a cyclist. So in your world, you'd also ban policemen, which would suit you fine, because why should your taxes be used to fund the police when you have already paid for your own security guards patrolling your massive property (which is even bigger since you bought up the adjacent social housing and had it demolished)?
But in any case, you say that the amount of space stuff takes up doesn't matter. So it's a bit silly to then launch into a complaint about one type of vehicle needing more space than another.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
so which gap would you suggest a cyclist take to pass through that line of cop car, cop and cyclist who seem to be unreasonably blocking the way?
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
I think someone arguing that bikes use more space than cars is peak this thread.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Nah, it was the "motorist restrictions are ethnic cleansing" bit.
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Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
As you’d expect. Most residential streets are served by a road which is obviously going to take up as much land as the houses on it. The most densely populated areas like London have a lot of flats and tall residential buildings so take up less ground space. Ben Southwood is very easily excited.
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HaveMyPassword123
If you want to take context into account, a cyclist who isn’t being overtaken by cars but followed by them is occupying all the space ahead of them on the road that cars could have been in had they overtaken.
Sure, I don’t mind how much space different things take up in cities, but it’s a favourite trope of cyclofanatics which often goes unchallenged, so it needs to be called out.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Yes you do, as evidenced by your getting all worked up about cycle lanes.
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My only working-up about cycle lanes is in relation to them making roads more dangerous for cyclists.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Nonsense.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Fixed for you
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HaveMyPassword123
Well yeah, although we have supposedly kerb-segregated cycle lanes near here that are just as bad.
The main thing cyclists need is space.
