Entirely unashamed anti car propaganda, and the more the better.

[edcraw]

Have you ever driven a car?

Speed limiters are not a good idea.

Yes, I drive occasionally.

Why are they not a good idea? Only argument I can see is the rare occasion you need to accelerate to prevent and accident. Systems deal with this by allow an override that comes with a warning alarm.

 

[edcraw]

They’re coming on all new cars from next year btw

Mandatory speed limiters to be fitted to all new UK cars in 2024 | Evo

The use of mandatory speed limiters on all new cars was approved by the European Parliament in 2019, and they're set to come into force later this year

www.evo.co.uk

 

[Saul Goodman]

I'm all for speed limiters. I can't wait to earn good money disabling them.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Have you ever driven a car?

Speed limiters are not a good idea.

Explain why, use diagrams if required.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Mandatory speed limiters, that you can choose not to use.

Currently, the regulation permits you to switch the speed limiter off. Those chasing the thrill of higher top speeds, or looking for better fuel economy may look at modifying their cars by getting the speed limiter removed.

Mandatory speed limiters on EU cars from 2024 | AutoTrader

All new vehicles sold in Europe – including Northern Ireland but not Great Britain – will be fitted with a mandatory speed limiter from 2024 to keep cars within the speed limits and boost road safety.

www.autotrader.co.uk

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Mandatory speed limiters, that you can choose not to use.

Mandatory speed limiters on EU cars from 2024 | AutoTrader

All new vehicles sold in Europe – including Northern Ireland but not Great Britain – will be fitted with a mandatory speed limiter from 2024 to keep cars within the speed limits and boost road safety.

www.autotrader.co.uk

Yep, because fitting them properly would presumably mean shrieking and wailing from all the idiots.

There is no argument against mandatory GPS based limiters that cannot be switched off, other than “I want to break the speed limits”.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Yep, because fitting them properly would presumably mean shrieking and wailing from all the idiots.

There is no argument against mandatory GPS based limiters that cannot be switched off, other than “I want to break the speed limits”.

I want to do a track day?

 

[edcraw]

I want to do a track day?

Ah diddums

 

[Saul Goodman]

Ah diddums

Another classic edcraw retort.

Great debate today guys… Some really good points…

Another stranger to self-awareness

 

[platinumsage]

Explain why, use diagrams if required.

They limit your speed - no diagrams needed.

 

[edcraw]

What’s the speed limit on a private track Saul?

 

[cupid_stunt]

Yes, I drive occasionally.

So, you own a car?

 

[edcraw]

So, you own a car?

No

 

[platinumsage]

There is no argument against mandatory GPS based limiters that cannot be switched off, other than “I want to break the speed limits”.

This is the sort of crap people come out with in support of compulsory ID cards .

You can’t be against an authoritarian state only when it suits you.

 

[edcraw]

Speed limits are authoritarian

iTz JuSt LiKe NaZi GeRmAnY!!!

 

[cupid_stunt]

No

So, you're happy to drive other people's cars, what a hypocrite.

 

[edcraw]

So, you're happy to drive other people's cars, what a hypocrite.

What? I occasionally hire a car for the few occasions a year I need one.

A real gotcha there!

 

[Saul Goodman]

What’s the speed limit on a private track Saul?

What's the speed limit on the Isle of Man TT course on mad Sunday?

You'll have to try harder than that.

 

[edcraw]

What's the speed limit on the Isle of Man TT course on mad Sunday?

You'll have to try harder than that.

There isn’t one so the speed limiter wouldn’t limit the speed presumably…

 

[Saul Goodman]

There isn’t one so the speed limiter wouldn’t limit the speed presumably…

It's a public road. Of course there are speed limits.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

I want to do a track day?

I think you may have missed the “GPS” part and the implications thereof.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

It's a public road. Of course there are speed limits.

You might want to go and lookup speed limits on the IoM.

 

[edcraw]

It's a public road. Of course there are speed limits.

It’s also the only place in Europe outside the German autobahn network where there are public roads without speed limits… Around 30 percent of the island’s highway network is unrestricted, including almost all of the mountain section of the famous TT course.

How Do You Police a Land with No Speed Limits?

The Isle of Man attracts thrill seekers with its roads with no speed limits. So how do the police cope? Surprisingly well, it turns out. Read more at Car and Driver.

www.caranddriver.com

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Something tells me Saul might not be quite the biker he makes out. You’d think a basic knowledge of the TT course would be entry level stuff.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Speed limits are authoritarian

iTz JuSt LiKe NaZi GeRmAnY!!!

See also: food quality standards, firearms restrictions, electrical safety regulations, and not letting blind people drive.

 

[Saul Goodman]

You might want to go and lookup speed limits on the IoM.

You might want to. There are speed limits all over the island. All residential areas have them. As that article states, only 30% of the island is unrestricted.

 

[Saul Goodman]

I think you may have missed the “GPS” part and the implications thereof.

I think you may have missed the bit where public roads with speed limits are closed and turned into racetracks.

 

[edcraw]

You might want to. There are speed limits all over the island. All residential areas have them. As that article states, only 30% of the island is unrestricted.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

You might want to. There are speed limits all over the island. All residential areas have them. As that article states, only 30% of the island is unrestricted.

Yes, I know

 

[Saul Goodman]

Something tells me Saul might not be quite the biker he makes out. You’d think a basic knowledge of the TT course would be entry level stuff.

Do you feel silly now?