Entirely unashamed anti car propaganda, and the more the better.
- Thread starter teuchter
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I’m sticking my oar in late so won’t dispute that.
We have systems to stop people dying when they fall from roofs. Doesn’t mean people stick to them.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
You have to distinguish between rules that attempt to stop people from injuring or killing others, and rules that attempt to prevent people from doing things that put themselves at risk.
This is why most of these analogies are stupid - vehicles are things you take out and move at speed in public areas with lots of vulnerable people in them.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Isn’t that what driving licenses are for?
T & P
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I tell you what certainly is directly linked to not only more deaths, but also far more far-reaching highly damaging consequences for both individuals and society alike.
Alcohol is responsible for an astonishingly high number of deaths, injuries and social harm to the country, including but not exclusive to anti-social behaviour, vandalism, theft, domestic violence, serious assaults, and intentional killings. Undoubtedly many, many times more detrimental to our wellbeing than privately owned cars- or cars, period- will ever fucking be.
Do I ever hear any car prohibitionists here call for booze to be banned on a similar platform to the ‘cars are detrimental to society?’
Do I cunting fuck.
Come on - who’s gonna make excuses for this?
maomao
普費斯
I'm currently teetotal and would support greater curbs on alcohol availability.
Not sure why this somehow pinged as a response to me but I hate foreign travel. I wouldn’t say others shouldn’t do it on the basis of my preferences though.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
How were your sausages?
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
Excuses for what?
maomao
普費斯
It was because there was a quote of yours there that I hadn't replied to but hadn't deleted either then did when it popped up unexpectedly. I apologise for alarming you.
I suppose me currently not drinking is irrelevant. I'd support measures to stop people convicted of violence when drinking having access to alcohol (I know that's not realistic btw). But I don't beat people up when I do drink so would still be allowed. The problems with driving are the amount of harm it does to others and the missalocation and unfair distribution of resources it results in which don't really apply to alcohol.
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I guess I got to miss out on what you were going to say somewhere but had a change of heart then.
maomao
普費斯
It was pretty boring.
I don’t mind a synopsis.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
"adrian chapman" is wrong there. The car depicted in those photos has a valid MOT obtained in March 2021 - don't believe everything you read on Twitter, especially when it's so easy to verify something yourself.
maomao
普費斯
I would.
Is that the synopsis? Thanks.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Explain to us the ways you think it's equivalent, and then we can look at this in a little more detail.
Also give us some numbers just to back up what you're saying about scale.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
He posted that under a picture of a goat.
Yossarian
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Too bad - still, if she keeps knocking people off bikes, one day somebody's going to make sure that car's in no condition to ever pass an MOT again.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Write to Raab and ask him how you can help then... Alcohol tags and 'chain gangs' to clean up rivers will prevent re-offending Dominic Raab to say
maomao
普費斯
Not really a fan of the forced labour (and they should be investing in new freight canals not just pulling shopping trolleys out of the old ones) but I do like the bits about stopping violent offenders from drinking and monitoring domestic abusers.
T & P
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Knock yourself out
ETA: And before you start, there is far more to it than a purely economic cost. The personal cost, such as domestic abuse and countless other forms of alcohol-induced violence, are massively greater than anything related to car use will ever produce. But know this as well as anyone else in here, of course.
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Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
You're a shoo-in for Tory Central Office. Don't worry too much, many people get more right wing as they age. Teuchter will surely be goose-stepping about the place any day now.
maomao
普費斯
What do you suggest for domestic abusers then? Just let them kill women?
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
We’ve already established that the helpful driver grabbed the cyclist to stop her falling over when she failed to unclip her pedals after stopping to shout. No need to allude to physical violence against the driver or her property.
