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Kier Starmer, obvs.
Would have worked better given he's a lawyer, but Leader of the Opposition was a bit of a gobful.
Kier Starmer, obvs.
The Lib Dem one, whoever that is?
The Lib Dem one, whoever that is?
Briefly derailing the thread from discussing the actions of the climate fascists (pat pending), this is by far the most interesting recent post in this this thread. You've got me and probably a few others wondering.I haven't been a lawyer for over 15 years. But, no, I don't want to say what I do now, as I don't want to give away my real life identity. But please do explain what you understand 'middle class' to mean.
I haven't been a lawyer for over 15 years. But, no, I don't want to say what I do now, as I don't want to give away my real life identity. But please do explain what you understand 'middle class' to mean.
I've explained that I value my privacy, so won't divulge my current job. But I can assure you that, even on your definition - which isn't without problems, by the way - I'm not middle class. Whereas you are. Which probably explains your much greater affinity with the insulation wallies.Those who either administer the relationship between capital and labour (teachers, lawyers, managers) or who benefit from it without actually owning the means of production (businessmen, farmers, shopkeepers etc.).
If you moved from being a lawyer to your current job and it is so unique that merely mentioning it would betray your identity I find it highly unlikely that you're working class but feel free to disclose.
I've explained that I value my privacy, so won't divulge my current job. But I can assure you that, even on your definition - which isn't without problems, by the way - I'm not middle class. Whereas you are. Which probably explains your much greater affinity with the insulation wallies.
Doctors are the same as skilled artisans, basically petits bourgeoisie unless they actually work for the state in which case they're the same as lawyers.That sort of class analysis is a nonsense anyway, as surgeons would be working class but for some magic reason due to their training and salary they aren't.
I don't value your privacy but will consider to judge you by the persona you project on these boards, that of a wealthy lawyer.
He's not rich because his wife's 40k plug in EV is a Volvo not a Merc or a BMW.‘I may make a lot of money, and chose to stop being a lawyer 15 years ago, but I’m working class’
He's not rich because his wife's 40k plug in EV is a Volvo not a Merc or a BMW.
Toyota, not Volvo.He's not rich because his wife's 40k plug in EV is a Volvo not a Merc or a BMW.
Two things you always do when you start feeling the pressure of having your arse kicked. One is to call people names; and the other is to start banging on about their wealth or class. It’s become your MO.I don't value your privacy but will consider to judge you by the persona you project on these boards, that of a wealthy lawyer.
Toyota, not Volvo.
And I've never denied being well paid. Some working class people are. I'm sorry if that offends your middle class ideas about the natural order of things.
I haven't called anyone names this morning apart from repeating your wife's nickname for you. And I've had two arguments about class in response to ostensibly middle class posters referring to protestors as middle class. Hardly an MO.Two things you always do when you start feeling the pressure of having your arse kicked. One is to call people names; and the other is to start banging on about their wealth or class. It’s become your MO.
Nothing wrong with that. Just saying.
No, none whatsoever. I have to sell my labour power to live.Presumably you make no money off property or investments?
Not just today, silly.I haven't called anyone names this morning apart from repeating your wife's nickname for you. And I've had two arguments about class in response to ostensibly middle class posters referring to protestors as middle class. Hardly an MO.
No, none whatsoever. I have to sell my labour power to live.
Sure, sure.
That's not a workable definition of 'working class'.No, none whatsoever. I have to sell my labour power to live.
It's not uncommon for middle class people to get spiky with working class people whom they perceive to be getting more than their due.Not just today, silly.
You do have an obsession with Athos’s wealth and class, and you do get vituperative when on the back foot. Agreed?
That's not a workable definition of 'working class'.
As I've explained previously, I don't own a car.What, you just stick it all in a current account or spend it on cars?
Lol. I don't even fulfil the criteria for middle class that you proposed (unlike you).
genuine question (not being flippant) how would you describe me then? I sell my labour but I own the company I sell it to that then sells my labour to other much larger companies.That's not a workable definition of 'working class'.
Wtf is wrong with you? He's told you that he won't say what he does for a living. That's quite reasonable. Many folk won't disclose personal information on here. And it's only you that's judging him. Bit of a broad definition of "people".Either say what you do for a living or accept that people will judge you in what they do know.