Athos
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When have I ever referred to that?
Entirely unashamed anti car propaganda, and the more the better.
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maomao
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I'm not trawling through two decades of posts. I'll point it out next time I see it.
Athos
Well-Known Member
Lol, can't find any evidence to back up your made-up claim. Clown.
maomao
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No, just can't be arsed. I'm clear what impression you've given me.
Athos
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Purely your own projection.
maomao
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Whatever, Lionel.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
So, just what part of people with lots of money paying more tax do you have an issue with?
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Yes, but doing so would make you something of a toilet sniffer.I could quite easily spec one for that price without a battery and motor
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
It would be much more sensible to spend 14 grand on a 14 grand motorbike. You can buy a nice ZERO electric motorbike fur less than 14kYeah, much more sensible to spend £50K or more on a car
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platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
Did I say I had a problem? I just think it should be replicated with expensive bikes, so it’s you that seems to have the problem with higher taxes on expensive stuff if you disagree with that.
maomao
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The following sentence read like a complaint:
Fwiw, bring on the luxury taxes but there's nothing shocking about fourteen grand bikes in a world where you can buy twenty grand guitars and hundred grand watches.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
It was a complaint that they changed it from a graduated tax based on CO2 emissions designed to incentivise the purchase of lower-CO2 emitting vehicles to just another flat rate duty with a single higher rate for £40k+ cars, yes.
But that’s what they’ve done so now there’s no reason why it shouldn’t be extended to expensive bikes.
maomao
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I think you'll struggle to find anyone objecting to higher taxation on luxury bicycles round here.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
A consensus on U75 for cyclists to pay road tax?
However I would have thought that the most deluded car-abolitionists here would want even luxury bikes to be kept tax-free, in the unrealistic hope of enticing Range Rover drivers to ditch and switch.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
You can't legally drive either after 2 pints. An ebike has the drunk in charge limit, which is pretty much if you are that smashed you'd never find it let alone be able to ride it...
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
Which is why motorcycles, in particular heavier ones with electronic parking brakes that immobilise the wheels
But nice try anyway, Specialized
What motorbike has this? The OEM immobilisers (HISS, etc) use rolling encryption keys in the key fob to authenticate to the ECU. So if the the ECU doesn't see the right key it won't power the ignition for fuel systems.
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
In a straight line... Cars have far better grip. I can lap our local track faster in my Toyota 86 time attack special than I can on my ZX-10RR. This is partly better grip through aero and bigger tyres but also the fact that I'll take more risks in the car.
Athos
Well-Known Member
True enough. But, on the road, you'll make better progress on a bike bike times out of ten, given the acceleration and ease of overtaking and filtering.
T & P
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Oh, I guess technically speaking it's not an immobiliser- certainly not an engine immobiliser. It's an electronic parking brake that locks the wheels, and as the bike has a smart key rather than a physical key, one cannot hotwire it to turn the bike on and disable the parking brake. The end result is the same- no fucker is rolling or driving off with the bike unless they have the smart key for it, and at 280 kg, no fucker and his mates are going to load it into a truck or van by hand either. It's a Peugeot Metropolis.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
That's one of those back-to-front robin reliants with no roof, right?
T & P
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Not quite. It is a three wheeled motorcycle-rated vehicle that car drivers can ride without a licence, but bitter envious people without either a car or bike licence cannot. It has the added advantage (like all types of motorcycles) of seemly piss off the anti-car Taliban brigade, as most of their arguments against the evil motor vehicle fall flat when applied to proper internal combustion engined bikes.
And I am sorry if I further annoy you, maomao and anyone else who (rightly) points out it is not a motorcycle, that it still enjoys full motorcycle privileges such as bus lane use, reduced vehicle excise duty fees, and free motorcycle parking. But hey, perhaps the two of you can start writing letters to the government and all the local authorities to protest about that, and who knows, you may suceed in having such privileges removed from my three-wheeled not-a-fucking-motorcycle vehicle
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beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Don't count on it. This is exactly what happens every minute of the day. Bikes with a bike lock get that wheel lifted as it's dragged and lifted into the back of a van. The system you speak of is as strong as the flexible rubber brake pipe, which is no match for a hungry mouse, far less the sharp knife or cordless angle grinder that all bike thieves are equipped with.
maomao
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Yes, that's why, like Peugeot, they studiously avoid calling it a bike. They call it a three wheel motorcycle.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
So, a motorbike then.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
maomao
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No. Bikes have two wheels.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
The clue's in the name
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Has engine, ridden by middle aged men in leather. Close enough.
