Athos
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When have I ever referred to that?The theme is wealth not motorbikes.
When have I ever referred to that?The theme is wealth not motorbikes.
I'm not trawling through two decades of posts. I'll point it out next time I see it.When have I ever referred to that?
Lol, can't find any evidence to back up your made-up claim. Clown.I'm not trawling through two decades of posts. I'll point it out next time I see it.
No, just can't be arsed. I'm clear what impression you've given me.Lol, can't find any evidence to back up your made-up claim. Clown.
Purely your own projection.No, just can't be arsed. I'm clear what impression you've given me.
Whatever, Lionel.Purely your own projection.
So, just what part of people with lots of money paying more tax do you have an issue with?There's a special higher rate of road tax for cars that cost more than £40k
Perhaps they should introduce a tax for expensive bikes too, because the logic behind the car one clearly has nothing to do with climate change, it's about extracting more money from people who buy expensive cars.
Yes, but doing so would make you something of a toilet sniffer.I could quite easily spec one for that price without a battery and motor
It would be much more sensible to spend 14 grand on a 14 grand motorbike. You can buy a nice ZERO electric motorbike fur less than 14kYeah, much more sensible to spend £50K or more on a car
So, just what part of people with lots of money paying more tax do you have an issue with?
The following sentence read like a complaint:Did I say I had a problem?
the logic behind the car one clearly has nothing to do with climate change, it's about extracting more money from people who buy expensive cars
The following sentence read like a complaint:
Fwiw, bring on the luxury taxes but there's nothing shocking about fourteen grand bikes in a world where you can buy twenty grand guitars and hundred grand watches.
I think you'll struggle to find anyone objecting to higher taxation on luxury bicycles round here.It was a complaint that they changed it from a graduated tax based on CO2 emissions designed to incentivise the purchase of lower-CO2 emitting vehicles to just another flat rate duty with a single higher rate for £40k+ cars, yes.
But that’s what they’ve done so now there’s no reason why it shouldn’t be extended to expensive bikes.
I think you'll struggle to find anyone objecting to higher taxation on luxury bicycles round here.
It would be much more sensible to spend 14 grand on a 14 grand motorbike. You can buy a nice ZERO electric motorbike fur less than 14k
Which is why motorcycles, in particular heavier ones with electronic parking brakes that immobilise the wheels
But nice try anyway, Specialized
If £14k represents the price of components, it must be made of gold!
But you're right about so-called 'super' cars; the prices are crazy, given the performance usually comes nowhere near a motorcycle that costs a tenth of the price.
True enough. But, on the road, you'll make better progress on a bike bike times out of ten, given the acceleration and ease of overtaking and filtering.In a straight line... Cars have far better grip. I can lap our local track faster in my Toyota 86 time attack special than I can on my ZX-10RR. This is partly better grip through aero and bigger tyres but also the fact that I'll take more risks in the car.
Oh, I guess technically speaking it's not an immobiliser- certainly not an engine immobiliser. It's an electronic parking brake that locks the wheels, and as the bike has a smart key rather than a physical key, one cannot hotwire it to turn the bike on and disable the parking brake. The end result is the same- no fucker is rolling or driving off with the bike unless they have the smart key for it, and at 280 kg, no fucker and his mates are going to load it into a truck or van by hand either. It's a Peugeot Metropolis.What motorbike has this? The OEM immobilisers (HISS, etc) use rolling encryption keys in the key fob to authenticate to the ECU. So if the the ECU doesn't see the right key it won't power the ignition for fuel systems.
That's one of those back-to-front robin reliants with no roof, right?It's a Peugeot Metropolis.
Not quite. It is a three wheeled motorcycle-rated vehicle that car drivers can ride without a licence, but bitter envious people without either a car or bike licence cannot. It has the added advantage (like all types of motorcycles) of seemly piss off the anti-car Taliban brigade, as most of their arguments against the evil motor vehicle fall flat when applied to proper internal combustion engined bikes.That's one of those back-to-front robin reliants with no roof, right?
Don't count on it. This is exactly what happens every minute of the day. Bikes with a bike lock get that wheel lifted as it's dragged and lifted into the back of a van. The system you speak of is as strong as the flexible rubber brake pipe, which is no match for a hungry mouse, far less the sharp knife or cordless angle grinder that all bike thieves are equipped with.The end result is the same- no fucker is rolling or driving off with the bike unless they have the smart key for it, and at 280 kg, no fucker and his mates are going to load it into a truck or van by hand either. It's a Peugeot Metropolis.
Yes, that's why, like Peugeot, they studiously avoid calling it a bike. They call it a three wheel motorcycle.View attachment 282041
Can Yamaha count?
So, a motorbike then.Yes, that's why, like Peugeot, they studiously avoid calling it a bike. They call it a three wheel motorcycle.
No.So, a motorbike then.
No. Bikes have two wheels.So, a motorbike then.
The clue's in the nameNo. Bikes have two wheels.