England v France - Saturday 10/12 - 19:00, ITV

[hitmouse]

I reckon England's mistake is they should've been more violent once the ref made it clear that it was a fouls-allowed kind of game. If someone had just stabbed Mbappe, the second half could've gone quite differently, and if that ref noticed at all he would've given a yellow card at most. Anyway, come on Morrocco and that.

 

[Wilf]

As an ABE/ Sometime neutral, your ingerland played OK and hoyed themselves around the place with sometimes reckless abandon.They certainly had the france under pressure alot of the time. I still don't get Maguire. You do have a core of what seem to be decent blokes/ none of that awful Beckham golden era bloated petulant ego shite. France were stuttering much of the time. Mbappe was kept reasonably quiet and didnt much much chance to explode. It has to be said tho that you did have a good start with the group you were handed.

Agree on maguire, though him and Saka were our best players at the other end. In fact not sure why they took Saka off didn't look to be fading.

 

[skyscraper101]

At least I’ve managed to avoid THAT SONG this entire tournament. Cheers lads

 

[Puddy_Tat]

At least I’ve managed to avoid THAT SONG this entire tournament. Cheers lads

lucky you.

if you mean 'three lions' there's a new version for this year - "it's coming home for christmas" which combines the bloody awfulness of the original with a whole new layer of bloody awful christmasness...

 

[skyscraper101]

lucky you.

if you mean 'three lions' there's a new version for this year - "it's coming home for christmas" which combines the bloody awfulness of the original with a whole new layer of bloody awful christmasness...

NO

 

[not-bono-ever]

oh, and Southgate going after this would be a major mistake. Hes built a good you side that play together when it matters.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

NO

that's roughly what i thought - turned the radio off fairly rapidly...

 

[mwgdrwg]

 

[not-bono-ever]

anyway you come to the drizzle soaked shithole of Hampden next year to be taught another footballing lesson

 

[tommers]

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[Limejuice]

There will be a zillion analyses in the future.

But the proximate reason England lost was that Kane missed a penalty.

 

[BigMoaner]

There will be a zillion analyses in the future.

But the proximate reason England lost was that Kane missed a penalty.

should never been allowed to take teh 2nd one. too much of a headfuck.

 

[N_igma]

 

[imposs1904]

I laughed:

 

[T & P]

Best team lost.

We had our work’s Xmas office party this evening. There was a screen at the place showing the match, but I ended up watching almost none of it. Was England better then? Not a loaded question, on a cab heading back home and I haven’t watched any highlights yet.

 

[Ted Striker]

Football's in a sorry state if so.

Actually one slight positive of this WC has indicated the supposed elite teams are very beatable on the day, which is pretty exciting.

The shock results feel more frequent this time round, and I think every big team has had one, so going into the knockouts there wasn't a stand out 'invincible' team.

Next time it comes home we'll have to win a tournament of 48.

 

[Infidel Castro]

We had our work’s Xmas office party this evening. There was a screen at the place showing the match, but I ended up watching almost none of it. Was England better then? Not a loaded question, on a cab heading back home and I haven’t watched any highlights yet.

France had the first half, England the second. If Kane had bagged the second penalty attempt it would have felt right. Of course, footie ain't about feelings - it's about scoring goals (and not conceding as many as you score). The game certainly deserved to go on to extra time if Kane had nailed the second penalty, and England were looking France's match in a lot of ways other than scoring from open play, so penalties after extra time would have been England's best chance of winning to my eyes, which sounds ironic I know.

 

[Infidel Castro]

Actually one slight positive of this WC has indicated the supposed elite teams are very beatable on the day, which is pretty exciting.

The shock results feel more frequent this time round, and I think every big team has had one, so going into the knockouts there wasn't a stand out 'invincible' team.

Next time it comes home we'll have to win a tournament of 48.

Wales also looked very beatable on any given day. And we're tied to Rob Page till 2166. Depressing.

 

[donkyboy]

I will be supporting the Argentinians in the final. ABF. And no. Morroco aint gonna beat France. Forget it. They have reached as far as they can go.

 

[The39thStep]

 

[tommers]

Ha, that's what I deleted.

 

[Spymaster]

I'm not allowed to say anything because it offends some posters.

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It's only a game of football at the end of the day. It's not that important really.

Christ. He’s added France to his list of nations to bore us about.

 

[tommers]

Christ. He’s added France to his list of nations to bore us about.

Can't wait for the "and also Argentina" post.

 

[dessiato]

Can't wait for the "and also Argentina" post.

Apart from excellent meat dishes I'm not a fan of Argentina. So that's unlikely.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

Jonathan Liew ( in the Observer) sums it up perfectly:

" there comes a point where events are no longer under your control, the point at which instinct and will and self-mythology – the kind of things you can’t train or put in a protein smoothie – take over.

England rose to the occasion. France had no need, for the occasion was already France-sized. England were brave. France had no need to be brave, as their default level of courage was already sufficient. England believed. France knew. Even in the stickier periods, as England surged and the noise swelled, France simply kept their discipline, made sure every necessary ball was contested, every necessary shot was blocked. And when they had five good minutes, they scored.
Which is why to home in on the finer details of this match, to fixate on passing maps and substitutions and refereeing decisions and 1%ers, is really to discuss a game that never happened."

Au revoir Angleterre.

 

[dessiato]

Christ. He’s added France to his list of nations to bore us about.

You could always put me on ignore since you find me so offensive.

 

[dessiato]

AmateurAgitator be careful what you say. Some posters think only England supporters are allowed to post here.

And don't forget, England were robbed, the ref was being paid to rob England of a win, and he was obviously a French supporter. It can never be that England, on the day, just weren't good, or lucky, enough. Some can't just enjoy the game as it is, and for the pleasure of the game. And it is only a game.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Jonathan Liew ( in the Observer) sums it up perfectly:

" there comes a point where events are no longer under your control, the point at which instinct and will and self-mythology – the kind of things you can’t train or put in a protein smoothie – take over.

England rose to the occasion. France had no need, for the occasion was already France-sized. England were brave. France had no need to be brave, as their default level of courage was already sufficient. England believed. France knew. Even in the stickier periods, as England surged and the noise swelled, France simply kept their discipline, made sure every necessary ball was contested, every necessary shot was blocked. And when they had five good minutes, they scored.
Which is why to home in on the finer details of this match, to fixate on passing maps and substitutions and refereeing decisions and 1%ers, is really to discuss a game that never happened."

Au revoir Angleterre.

That's bollocks tbf. After the fact rationalisation. Two good attacking teams both created plenty of chances and worried the hell out of the opposition defences. England missed a pen and that was the difference between them in the end.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

England fans are always sore losers. There'll be stella-fuelled attacks on spouses and xenophobic/racist violence from them as we speak.

Anyway, I'm glad England are out - the wave of patriotic bullshit had they continued and maybe even won (as if) would have been thoroughly nauseating and the whole Qatar 2022 event is utterly vile.

And if I did actually give a shit about footy, which I don't, I'd acknowledge that the actual, real footy is club football and not all this national team bollocks.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

England fans are just sore losers. There'll be stella-fuelled attacks on spouses and xenophobic violence as we speak.

Anyway, I'm glad England are out - the wave of patriotic bullshit had they continued and maybe even won (as if) would have been thoroughly nauseating and the whole Qatar 2022 event is utterly vile.

I'd never thought of it that way. Thanks for that. Hope you keep posting.