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intersol32 said:
Bit of brass neck for them to talk about "innocent white drinkers" when they thought they'd got the upper hand by throwing stuff at a crowd that also contained many innocent women and children out for the day.

What it boils down to is a bunch of mouthy semi-drunk wankers (organized or otherwise) who shit themselves and ran as soon as it was put up to them, and now they want to cry about it.
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Only thing I'd say is, purely from the short video, the ones who got clocked with the bar stool and table were pretty much on the periphery of it - they could have been bystanders, they could have been shouting abuse (if the latter, fuck 'em). I'm not going all treelover on this and I agree with what everybody has said about fighting back against the fash. It's just, to make the obvious point, violence is rarely a precise art. It can be, when you've got identifiable targets or some similar scenario, but not in circs like this. Don't get me wrong, the fash caused this, they got what was coming to them and the bloke who waded in did right.
 
A small gaggle of chanting EDL out in Leeds today heckling a Palistine solidarity march according to a friend on FB (their picture). Nobody gave them the attention they were seeking.

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EDL in Batley yesterday - around the 300 mark. They were opposed by 30-40 anti fash, with another 70-90 UAF types in a car park a few hundred yards away. Virtually no locals turned out to oppose them.
 
What the suffering fuck has Gaza got to do with 'English defence', and supporting Israel as the hierarchical big dick in the equation must cause blood vessel-splitting cognitive dissonance for the supremacists latching on.
 
Citizen66 said:
What the suffering fuck has Gaza got to do with 'English defence', and supporting Israel as the hierarchical big dick in the equation must cause blood vessel-splitting cognitive dissonance for the supremacists latching on.
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Yeah, it's a wierd developement. Maybe they associate the Palestinians with Al Queda, as this lie has been peddled in some media. Another thing was the shadowy pro israel/zionist linked group who helped fund the EDL at the beginning. This could have had some lasting influence, and my last guess is that they think everyone who supports the Palestinians is UAF or something so have taken the contrary stance out of spite. They'll be standing guard at animal laboratories or defending seal culls soon.
 
Anudder Oik said:
Yeah, it's a wierd developement. Maybe they associate the Palestinians with Al Queda, as this lie has been peddled in some media. Another thing was the shadowy pro israel/zionist linked group who helped fund the EDL at the beginning. This could have had some lasting influence, and my last guess is that they think everyone who supports the Palestinians is UAF or something so have taken the contrary stance out of spite. They'll be standing guard at animal laboratories or defending seal culls soon.
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Yes, Alan Ayling/Lake was very much pro the Israeli state, and who could forget the "leader" of the EDL Jewish Divison, Roberta Moore (one of life's great charmers), who was happy to express her support for the Jewish Defence League (aren't they proscribed as a terrorist organsation in the US?) - this of course went down with the more BNP/NF-happy element of the EDL like the proverbial lead balloon. Interesting you mention the "defending animal laboratories" thing, as (ironically?) fascists joined the Animal Liberation Front during the 80's and early 90's, and ALF founder Ronnie Lee had no problems with this at all! :facepalm:
 
I've asked EDL supporters. They said two things 1. Muslims are all terrorists, Israel kills Muslims so are good 2. One or two picked up on the Palestine/IRA links.
I haven't heard any sophisticated Zionist support just 'Jews hate muzzies so we like Jews"
 
It's their new Lee Rigby. Expect t'Wat-more to be producing Paedophile badges and peddling them on Ebay.
 
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And it looks like every flavour of fash might be rolling up there......... the smelly flavour, the drunk flavour, the coked up flavour..... could be interesting in the middle of it all, with a few scores needing settling!
 
Kev Scott LTJ said:
And it looks like every flavour of fash might be rolling up there......... the smelly flavour, the drunk flavour, the coked up flavour..... could be interesting in the middle of it all, with a few scores needing settling!
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According to dubious sorces the edl turned over the nf yesterday whilst shouting "nazi scum off our streets" , britian first were ran as well apparently !
 
Limerick Red said:
According to dubious sorces the edl turned over the nf yesterday whilst shouting "nazi scum off our streets" , britian first were ran as well apparently !
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Any more on this?

Apparently Paul Pitt was nicked in Cricklewood today - I don't have much time for plod, but this put a wry smile on my face :D
 
What you might call a "colour piece":

...the English Defence League has been camping outside [Rotherham] police station since Wednesday. Its aim, in the first instance, is to force the resignation of Shaun Wright, the police and crime commissioner for South Yorkshire. But, said Ian Crossland, the 42-year-old leader of the group, "It's been 16 years, 1,400 cases. More than one man was responsible for that."

There are probably 40 people there, though there have been as many as 200 in the week. They have a little commune of tents, and a huge number of crisps. "For five years, I've been travelling around this country, telling people what's going on," said Andrew Edge, another EDL member. "I've been spat at. I've had urine poured on me. All I want to do is get the message across. Because it's not just Rotherham. Preston's got a major problem. Dewsbury is absolutely full of it, I've seen it with my own eyes".

Gail Speight is the head of the Angels, the female wing of the EDL. She says: "We came here in 2012 and did a regional demo about this, and mothers were coming up to me, when we were having the speeches, saying, 'can I speak? This happened to my daughter.' As soon as the police saw what was going to happen, they cut the sound system." The air is thick with conspiracy and conflicting accounts. I hear different versions of the same story: that a woman had spoken to them all that morning, having come in to post bail for racially aggravated criminal damage. In Edge's account, she had broken a window trying to get her seven-year-old daughter out of a house. In Speight's, she'd attacked a guy who had abused her.

There is a melodramatic, febrile atmosphere that makes it impossible to take anything at face value. And yet, one thing is demonstrably true: "Can you just say," said Edge, "how much support we've had? We've had people turning up with food, with cigarettes. This is off, like, nice people, not the people you're thinking. Right now a sandwich shop just brought us more than we could eat." I saw the sandwiches. I heard cars beep in support. Nice cars, not the cars you think.

http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2014/aug/29/saturday-sketch-rotherham-edl
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Was anyone else harangued by an irascible liberal at the Cricklewood demo? She instructed someone that we protesters didn't want to promote suicide and that they ought not to chant "follow your leader". She then directed her scorn towards me for pointing out that the police protect the fascists, admonishing me with the novel observation that the police were there to protect both sides. A message which I'm sure would have been appreciated in Ferguson or Malmo...
 
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