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Apparently people were arrested in UAF contingent yesterday in Oxford. Does anyone know anything about this?
 
they are very lucky some people and elders stepped in to calm it down, those bastards would've been demolished
 
BBC have some great footage of a big lad hopping the fence and belting the Fascist fuckjobs with a chair. Well done to that man!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-28509791

Guy was a psycho that in other circumstances would be described as a thug

I don't get the love of violence you get on here from some, I saw it here when the EDL came to town:, the anti's were using all the same jumping on the spot, flailing arms, etc that the football hoolies use.

and no I'm not condoning the bottle throwing at the crowd, etc.
 
Guy was a psycho that in other circumstances would be described as a thug

I don't get the love of violence you get on here from some, I saw it here when the EDL came to town:, the anti's were using all the same jumping on the spot, flailing arms, etc that the football hoolies use.

and no I'm not condoning the bottle throwing at the crowd, etc.

You've edited this post three times now. Is this an indication that you're regretting the stupid context free first post? The one that simply said:
Guy was a psycho that in other circumstances would be described as a thug
 
best keep it for your files then.
Grow up ffs. We all post stupid things in the heat of the moment - trying to rectify it means that we recognise this and so we start again but from a common basis. Just calling people thugs doesn't do this. As i think you, if you weren't such a defensive clown would see that you were trying to do - weren't you? Or were you actually trying to amplify your original stupidity?

So so sick of you.
 
again treelover it was a peaceful march that was attacked, the man you are questioning reacted to the attack. there was another incident just around the corner a little while before this

he wasn't up for it and there was no lust for violence on the side of the marchers, everything was calmed down really quickly considering, testament to the marchers with no wish for violence.

it was just for Gaza, that is all
 
I was at the rally in Newcastle. I went because of the kids much like my own being blown up in their homes. The EDL turned up shouting bomb bomb Palestine and worse. Nobody on the rally was there for trouble - loads brought kids for example - but had those EDL bastards been nearer and shouting their shite then I reckon I would have swung a few myself.
*edited cos of daft phone
 
Was this guy one of theirs?

A man has admitted stealing £300,000 intended for the armed forces charity Help for Heroes.

Christopher Copeland, 51, from Devon, gathered teams of fundraisers to collect donations from the public across England and Wales.

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The teams would use Copeland's fleet of ex-military vehicles, in Help for Heroes livery, and encourage shoppers at large stores to put money into charity buckets.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-28523058
 
Guy was a psycho that in other circumstances would be described as a thug

I don't get the love of violence you get on here from some, I saw it here when the EDL came to town:, the anti's were using all the same jumping on the spot, flailing arms, etc that the football hoolies use.

and no I'm not condoning the bottle throwing at the crowd, etc.



ffs Tree lover..

you seem to have learnt nothing from even recent history.

I remember you stating something similar years back on the Beating the Fascists thread. Have you not even grasped the basics that if there weren't people 'up for it' , you would not be able to have peaceful marches , if the oppo weren't sufficiently wary, or any marches, if there weren't any 'up for it'.

and those that you call 'pyschos and thugs'...even 'football' sorts,... put themselves, their lives, houses, jobs, marriages, seeing their kids, up for grabs.


'love of violence'?! have you no idea?!.. actually I don't think you have. Violence is a tactic, not a principle...one that can not only lead to a life changing fit up and and conviction on any day out that these 'thugs/psychos' were on, but an injury ..brain damage from any strike to the head...that's what these 'people' are risking...so you can have the next march..

in my experience, those of your thinking were a hindrance to those seeking to gain the support of those who mattered...the local working class. They don't seem to have respect for those who clamour for support from the same state that is shaping their lives. When these middle class interlopers would turn up in an area, with no ground work, get done...doing more damage than if they weren't there!

haven't you grasped that yet, even from Brick Lane 80 years ago?

so plot it out for me..

what would happen if those 'up for it' weren't there?

what would happen on the next march?...would there be a next march?!

from experience, I can tell you , there would be more of the opposition..after such an easy day out.

and you and those of your thinking would be pleading for the state to protect you, writing to your mps for bans on them...

makes the left look good doesn't it?...to those who we want to recruit ?

'love of violence?!' how about glad, yes to inflict some on them as a means to fuck off from this area...think twice about getting a few of your mates to come for the easy day out lefty bashing next time...just a load of tree lovers there, it'll be easy'...

for us, glad to get home in one piece...even then, wait for the knock on the door and subsequent fit up with life on hold for the next year. Love of violence , yeah. always seem to bemoaning the lack of activity of many...but what do you actually risk?...wouldn't normally ask, and not slating any effort you do, but what do you risk, whilst you slag off the thugs and the pyschos who risk everything,,,health, jobs, houses, family...?


ffs.

we'd be lambs to the slaughter.
 
... and as an aside, the 'peaceful marchers' and 'up for it' lot are not always 2 different species. Very often the same people in different circumstances, different day - yes, it's about tactics. When the EDL were in Boro we had a text book 'peaceful march' but when there was a shout out later on about a breakaway lot going into an Asian area we got round there sharpish (false alarm as it turned out).
 
The guy who jumped the barrier is a hero. He single handedly stopped the racists in their tracks by taking the initiative to them. He stopped people from getting hurt by unnerving the attackers and turning their attention away from the marchers. They probably thought they were being confronted by more than one bloke. From then on they weren't so brave because they felt vulnerable behind their barrier. It's a shame that 20 didn't jump over. Would that have been such a bad thing for the image of the demonstration?

I don't know who is more stupid, the racists who will boast it was a victory, or the guy with the socialist worker trying to calm things down. What kind of fucked up leadership is that? Calm people down while they are being attacked but turn your back on the attackers? What did he think the thugs would do? FFS, they had already attacked a peaceful march. You can't just ignore that and walk on like nothing has happened because it will only grow.

The SWP has absolutely no cred with the working class. Fucking toys R us revolutionaries.
 
there is some suggestion that it was organised, as I said upthread not sure myself but happy to be proved wrong, well not happy but you know. apparently being at a pub on the route of a march has been done in the past.
also there has been a "promise" of a demo against Muslims in Cardiff now after this as the racists are claiming all sorts and that innocent white drinkers were attacked blah blah
 
there is some suggestion that it was organised, as I said upthread not sure myself but happy to be proved wrong, well not happy but you know. apparently being at a pub on the route of a march has been done in the past.
also there has been a "promise" of a demo against Muslims in Cardiff now after this as the racists are claiming all sorts and that innocent white drinkers were attacked blah blah

Either way, the decision to start hacking bottles etc and begin racist chanting was a poor one on their behalf. They obviously didn't get the desired response they wanted and instead were faced with quite a lot of angry folk who were prepared to defend themselves and the march.

Added to this is the actual televised humiliation of them getting a well deserved slap which has no doubt prompted a handful to try and claim to be organizing a "march against Muslims" (I know they've "promised" but the gobbing off the majority of racist idiots indulge in usually outweights actual physical activity - we'll wait and see anyway).

Bit of brass neck for them to talk about "innocent white drinkers" when they thought they'd got the upper hand by throwing stuff at a crowd that also contained many innocent women and children out for the day.

What it boils down to is a bunch of mouthy semi-drunk wankers (organized or otherwise) who shit themselves and ran as soon as it was put up to them, and now they want to cry about it.
 
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