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belboid said:
You've got the demo pretty much spot on I think. I cant believe te AFN lot were bloody daft enough to get done in the Howard - again. Just fucking obvious place to avoid after such a demo, especially when you stick out a mile.
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I know, I know but it sounds like they got more than they were really expecting...heard from a totally unreliable source that someone as young as 14 was punched.
 
SpackleFrog said:
So the Rotherham demo today looked big. About 500 I reckon. And fairly disciplined - no arrests as far as I know (at the demo at least) and lots of stewards who stopped them from attacking the police/throwing things effectively. I actually heard snippets of their speeches for a change as well - which included grievances against social services and tuition fees, as well as the usual sharia law bollocks.

Our side were a fucking embarrassment. On one side the usual UAF frenzy (complete with a Labour councillor claiming there were "no problems in Rotherham" and someone else calling for "unity among people of all classes"), on the other the rather sullen AFN types chanting in Spanish. I hate these demo's but I consider it a point of pride to get to them when they're on my home turf. I don't really know why I bothered today. At most we numbered 150, and we were very divided - it was obvious half the anti-fash there hated UAF.
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Saw some EDL types at Sheffield station early sat morning: they walked out, but I'm sure they were EDL, they were scanning while they walked and bizarrely one of them was very conspicuously carrying a large first aid box!
 
Citizen66 said:
They share many unpleasant traits with fascists. Not viewing favourably on mugs who stand shoulder to shoulder with them - like you - should they get a sniff of the levers of power for starters.
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islam is not 'fascist.' it confuses what fascism is by misnaming any extremist fascist. as for muslims against crusades? what all 25 of them. they are fuck all.
 
neither is islamism fascist. do they have fascist policies - militarism, nationalism, imperialism, class division, industrialisation and private/state economic plans? no. this is like rik in the young ones calling anyone he doesnt like fascist. islamists and fascists have one thing in common. they are both fuckspangles.
 
malatesta32 said:
neither is islamism fascist. do they have fascist policies - militarism, nationalism, imperialism, class division, industrialisation and private/state economic plans? no. this is like rik in the young ones calling anyone he doesnt like fascist. islamists and fascists have one thing in common. they are both fuckspangles.
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They don't have a position on Kaffirs then? Or on Socialism? Or Homosexuals?
 
anyway, there's three very short vids n youtube from the thing in sheffield pub. looks like very small group of anti-fash got thrown out of the pub by large gang of edl.

there's a big difference between london/brighton/bristol, where there is a counter-culture of some description, and up north. there is no 'left' up here, there is very very small numbers of anti-fash who will actually turn out but you're talking incredibly small numbers. meanwhile NF and EDL get 100 - 300 fighting types regularly with limited or no opposition at all.

the labour/uaf lot would rather grass antis up than work with them, and then there's the older 'veterans' who just slag the youngsters off. the vast majority of the population up here just don't care about politics at all but the minority who do, who are in the streets, who walk around without any hassle are the far right. don;'t know why they don't move that march for england to newcastle. they'd love that shit up here.
 
krink said:
anyway, there's three very short vids n youtube from the thing in sheffield pub. looks like very small group of anti-fash got thrown out of the pub by large gang of edl.

there's a big difference between london/brighton/bristol, where there is a counter-culture of some description, and up north. there is no 'left' up here, there is very very small numbers of anti-fash who will actually turn out but you're talking incredibly small numbers. meanwhile NF and EDL get 100 - 300 fighting types regularly with limited or no opposition at all.

the labour/uaf lot would rather grass antis up than work with them, and then there's the older 'veterans' who just slag the youngsters off. the vast majority of the population up here just don't care about politics at all but the minority who do, who are in the streets, who walk around without any hassle are the far right. don;'t know why they don't move that march for england to newcastle. they'd love that shit up here.
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You got any links to those vids krink? ta
 
edit: the EDL may have attacked a pub antifascists were in. one EDL got battered with a stool, got a black eye and badly damaged jaw. friends say 2 antifash at hosptital with minor injuries. other EDL turned up and got nicked. they are now posting it over facebook and youtube to make plod's job easier. eejits.
 
krink said:
anyway, there's three very short vids n youtube from the thing in sheffield pub. looks like very small group of anti-fash got thrown out of the pub by large gang of edl.

there's a big difference between london/brighton/bristol, where there is a counter-culture of some description, and up north. there is no 'left' up here, there is very very small numbers of anti-fash who will actually turn out but you're talking incredibly small numbers. meanwhile NF and EDL get 100 - 300 fighting types regularly with limited or no opposition at all.the labour/uaf lot would rather grass antis up than work with them, and then there's the older 'veterans' who just slag the youngsters off. the vast majority of the population up here just don't care about politics at all but the minority who do, who are in the streets, who walk around without any hassle are the far right. don;'t know why they don't move that march for england to newcastle. they'd love that shit up here.
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agreed. there are a lot of people who talk shite on here who never seem to show up for anything altho i have met plenty off here who do. weekend total:
the BNP managed 12 at hemel.
NF got a fair few in NE see: http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2014/05/516633.html
EDL got a few 100 in sheffield and the pub was damaged more than any antifascists.
i've been to several things over the last few years where very few have bothered turning out.
 
malatesta32 said:
edit: the EDL may have attacked a pub antifascists were in. one EDL got battered with a stool, got a black eye and badly damaged jaw. friends say 2 antifash at hosptital with minor injuries. other EDL turned up and got nicked. they are now posting it over facebook and youtube to make plod's job easier. eejits.
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You hadn't hard of it a minute ago and now you're broadcasting what really happened? Stop doing this.

malatesta32 said:
agreed. there are a lot of people who talk shite on here who never seem to show up for anything altho i have met plenty off here who do. .
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Seriously, who are you?
 
butchersapron said:
You hadn't hard of it a minute ago and now you're broadcasting what really happened? Stop doing this.
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i heard a lot of stuff today thats been contradictory but havent been able to verify until now so havent published anything. so thanks to rotherham/shefifeld antifascists for the info. dont tell me what i should be doing butchers. it makes you sound despotic.
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malatesta32 said:
i heard a lot of stuff today thats been contradictory but havent been able to verify until now so havent published anything. so thanks to rotherham/shefifeld antifascists for the info. dont tell me what i should be doing butchers. it makes you sound despotic.
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I'll tell you that a two minute look at a 24 second video does not equal what you posted. It doesn't confirm or show a damn thing. Where have you heard stuff? Secret sources?

Where's your book?
 
butchersapron said:
I'll tell you that a two minute look at a 24 second video does not equal what you posted. It doesn't confirm or show a damn thing. Where have you heard stuff? Secret sources?

Where's your book?
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the videos cd be anything. sheffield AFN and rotherham antifascist mate confirmed it. give us yr address and i'll sned you a copy.
 
ask bignose, raknor, pickmans, topcat, mr bishie, fingers and fuck off. book out with AK autumn. whens your out? petty bitching is not anti-fascism.
 
malatesta32 said:
the videos cd be anything. sheffield AFN and rotherham antifascist mate confirmed it. give us yr address and i'll sned you a copy.
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Of what? The video that could show anything? The 24 secs vid that's just been on here? Or a longer vid that you're happy to send to all plod reading or just make aware is available should a specific door go in?
 
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