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[Ranbay]

Yeah fuzz, he came over to speak when that woman did.

 

[ddraig]

thought that was Jeff Hurford
what did him in the suit say?

 

[butchersapron]

Yeah fuzz, he came over to speak when that woman did.

Is he NOT WELSH?

 

[teqniq]

Nice one ddraig and B0B2oo9 for making the effort to be there. Sorry I was not there but I work most weekends, not long home now.

 

[Ranbay]

thought that was Jeff Hurford
what did him in the suit say?

didnt say owt, they said who he was.

 

[ddraig]

didnt say owt, they said who he was.

ta

 

[Dogsauce]

About 30-50 in Leeds apparently, crossed the road from wetherspoons at the station to a police pen on City Square/Park Plaza. Some complaining that they weren't being served in Wetherspoons - Tommy's 'no booze' request going unheeded then. I'm not in town to witness this as gigging in Aberdeen last night, just what friends are reporting. Spotted some kind of orange march in Glasgow today though, presumably nothing at all to do with this?

Turnout sounds low generally everywhere, is that about right? The sad thing was seeing a lot of black/Asian people on twitter saying they were avoiding town because the EDL were out. Pisses me off that people feel they can't just go and do what they want due to the fear the wankers are creating.

 

[SpineyNorman]

between 50 and 80 arseholes turned out. Failed utterly to make it into Barkers Pool, despite two attempts by the police to force them thru. For once we well and truly outnumbered bug stylee, up to 500 anti's there. A couple made an attempt to sneak in after they had 'officially' been dispersed, but they didnt get close and went back to the pub.

They said they weren't going to have any chanting as a 'mark of respect,' but couldnt contain themselves when they saw a teenage lass taking the piss out of them, so we had about thirty fat blokes shouting 'slag, slag, slag' at her for a while - and then they chucked the flowers they were meant to be laying at the war memorial at her.

The other highlight was the local bishop trying to get us to allow 'only 15' of them to come and lay their flowers. Insert your own bishop bashing joke here.

Cheers for that belboid

 

[Dreich]

Must have been about 100-130 SDL out in Edinburgh, best turn out they've had in a while. NF and "end all immigration" banners, plus one guy in Tupac shirt, who didn't enjoy the "Tupac was a muslim" chants.
On a more serious note, a group of around ten of them broke away from the coppers and tried to pick off the rump of the counter protest, though this ran out of steam pretty quick when folk didn't run off and the allowed themselves to be moved on.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

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[butchersapron]

Must have been about 100-130 SDL out in Edinburgh, best turn out they've had in a while. NF and "end all immigration" banners, plus one guy in Tupac shirt, who didn't enjoy the "Tupac was a muslim" chants.
On a more serious note, a group of around ten of them broke away from the coppers and tried to pick off the rump of the counter protest, though this ran out of steam pretty quick when folk didn't run off and the allowed themselves to be moved on.

That's the best/worst posted as we approach 9. Bit of time yet.

 

[Dreich]

Nick Griffin tweeted earlier stating that Edinburgh was the turnout of the day. Usually there's flags for NWI/NEI but didn't see any today, suggesting they were mainly Scottish. Fair few younger ones, too.

 

[ddraig]

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#EDL try to distance themselves from their toxic brand name by calling themselves #Woolwichstrong , #bristolstrong etc.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

The Old Steine memorial, Brighton;

 

[Anudder Oik]

Sheffield looks good

 

[treelover]

The BNP & EDL claim to oppose Islamist extremist bigotry but in reality they generalise and abuse all Muslims. Many of their protests are menacing, even violent.
Islam is not the main problem. Islamist fundamentalism and violent jihad are what we should focus on opposing. It is important to make a clear distinction between Muslims and Islamist extremists. Don’t confuse the two. Unite to isolate the main threats: the Islamist far right and its BNP and EDL equivalents.
I support today’s Unite Against Fascism (UAF) counter-protest against the BNP. But UAF is not consistent. UAF commendably opposes the BNP and EDL but it is silent about Islamist fascists who promote anti-Semitism, homophobia, sexism and sectarian attacks on non-extremist Muslims.
This silence and inaction by the UAF is a shocking betrayal of Muslim people – abandoning them to the Islamist far right.
Islamist fascists want to overthrow democracy, establish a clerical dictatorship, suppress human rights and kill Muslims who don’t conform to their hard-line interpretation of Islam.
It is time the UAF campaigned against the Islamist far right, as well as against the EDL and BNP far right.

Peter Tatchell yesterday

We are not scared of Kuffar … my brothers remain in your ranks and do not be scared of these filthy Kuffar. They are pigs … Allah says they are worse than cattle.

Apparently, Michael Adebolajo spoke at a rally organised and attended by UAF to defend Harrow Central Mosque in 2009




he said this, apparently there was no comdemnation by UAF leaders, etc.

Racist bigots including the BNP-linked English Defence League and “Stop the Islamisation of Europe” are planning on holding an anti-Muslim protest outside Harrow Central Mosque on the evening of Friday 11 September. Unite Against Fascism has called a solidarity vigil in response to defend the mosque from racists and fascists.

This was the publicity for the event

 

[SpineyNorman]

Apparently, Michael Adebolajo spoke at a rally organised and attended by UAF to defend Harrow Central Mosque in 2009

he said this, apparently there was no comdemnation by UAF leaders, etc.

Where's that come from? Bad as UAF are I think it extremely unlikely to be true.

 

[butchersapron]

Apparently, Michael Adebolajo spoke at a rally organised and attended by UAF to defend Harrow Central Mosque in 2009

he said this, apparently there was no comdemnation by UAF leaders, etc.

Pathetic. Do you think the UAF can do anything but be seen to defend harrow mosque? They're idiots who made these people bedfellows who never would have any control, but get them right on this- is this their demo and have they given him a platform? I've got no time for them or where their politics led but your desperation to pin this on them is pissing me right off.

 

[treelover]

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/351147

ITV News broadcast it, wonder why it hasn't been circulated, etc,

 

[treelover]

Pathetic. Do you think the UAF can do anything but be seen to defend harrow mosque? They're idiots who made these people bedfellows who never would have any control, but get them right on this- is this their demo and have they given him a platform?

pardon?

 

[butchersapron]

Where's that come from? Bad as UAF are I think it extremely unlikely to be true.

This fact free piece.

 

[butchersapron]

pardon?

I said that you glee in posting it is pathetic and that you've failed to show that UAF supported or promoted what this freak said.

 

[butchersapron]

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/351147

ITV News broadcast it, wonder why it hasn't been circulated, etc,

OMG, even when the mainstream media does show something you want you still ask why haven't any non-mainstream media show it. There is just no way to win.

 

[treelover]

Really baffled here, the ITN footage is of the fanatic at a UAF organised event, the left there appeared to tolerate his rant, why is this controversial on here?, if true, why was it not commented on at the time and its legitimate to ask what was the response of the events organisers?

 

[SpineyNorman]

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/351147

ITV News broadcast it, wonder why it hasn't been circulated, etc,

Because, and I mean no disrespect, it's an absolute fucking joke of an article.

This:

Digital Journal previously exposed the UAF for its use of violence when the English Defence League peacefully demonstrated in Walthamstow.

Ought to be a clue.

Seriously, we all think UAF are shit. But that's no reason to uncritically accept anything bad that's said about them.

 

[treelover]

had a few?

sorry, that's at BA

look at the video,

btw, spiney, I can tell you of few times, the SWP have tolerated anti-Semitic leaflets, etc at STWC events

 

[SpineyNorman]

Really baffled here, the ITN footage is of the fanatic at a UAF organised event, the left there appeared to tolerate his rant, why is this controversial on here?, if true, why was it not commented on at the time and its legitimate to ask what was the response of the events organisers?

What do you think 'the left' or the organisers should, or even could, have done about it?

 

[treelover]

er, no platform?

 

[SpineyNorman]

btw, spiney, I can tell you of few times, the SWP have tolerated anti-Semitic leaflets, etc at STWC events

That's not really relevant though is it? Seriously mate, you've called this one wrong.

 

[SpineyNorman]

er, no platform?

How? They didn't give him a platform - he just got up and spoke - and look at the footage - how could they possibly have no-platformed him? Come on, think about it.