EDL watch
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DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Indeed. The OH is concerned that her father is now a supporter of the EDL.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
What's needed is burning rivers of fire between us and the people the edl seek to appeal to, they could never be part of our constituency and their interests could never be ours right? We must separate ourselves from them by any means possible.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Equally delusional is the complacent view that UKIP are not in pole position to hoover up the support electorally.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Its a mixed bag Treelover. The latest polling actually indcates that most people see the EDL as likely to create more trouble http://www.britishfuture.org/articl...-make-terrorism-more-likely-say-most-britons/
Its the issues or the percieved issues not the ogansiation that are becoming respectable
TopCat
Putin fanboy
How far do you take it? How far do you pander?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Mainly by not taking any of the issues behind their support seriously and taking the piss out of their lack of education ( wonderful idea that education makes us more correct), clothes and appearance , what they eat and how they speak.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
You mean taking the piss out of their class?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Not sure that there is any need to pander - what is needed is some social or political interaction, some basis for discovering and acting on each others politics without shouting nazi or you're not english anymore at each other. Taking part in the ongoing violent polarisation just pushes any possibility of that taking place further away. None of this means that you have to take a soft line or pander, it means that our views can only be recognised as legitimate through meaningful interaction however much they are rejected. I saw the shocked looks on the people opposing the edl down here on saturday and the anger on the other side - the real gulf between them was utterly demoralising - and in the longer term, damaging to everyone.
I made a point of talking to two lads in evf hoodies and asking them what was going on, they were so angry against 'rich students' and insisted over half an hour or so that they totally and utterly rejected racism (that doesn't mean that i bought it, just that they are aware that racism is not politically acceptable) - we were getting somewhere when an older bloke spotted what was going on and picked a fight with me in order to make them choose between standing with him or having dialogue with me, he spotted the danger of what was going on. I know that's a tiny and maybe not representative example but fuck me, something needs to happen on this ground before its too late.
Yes, the 'british' by and large say they don't like 'political violence
and yes, UKIP will ultimately be the beneficiary of all this.
this is all over the web, its pretty incredible
btw some of the worse culprits regularly post on here.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
sure do honey
Ranbay
The same rules apply
presume you're posting that as an example of what the last few posts have been talking about, bob? yeah, it is pretty shit. this from the daily mash is similarly sneering...
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
It won't undermine the far-right - it won't touch them in the slightest. What it will do is act an in-group marker for certain types of people, people who the growing social tensions won't really touch - for now at least.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
it's pissing it down here
malatesta32
Not Serb. No, Really!
i think the muslamic rayguns video was a particularly rare example here. it showed this guy who clearly had no idea what he was doing there. if you go on a demo, at least make sure you know why! inarticulate he may have been, but he didnt have a kangaroo.
satire can be part of a overall struggle not a replacement for organisation.
satire can be part of a overall struggle not a replacement for organisation.
Ranbay
The same rules apply
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/28/edl-protestor-newcastle_n_3345383.html?utm_hp_ref=tw
That, "Send the black cu**s home" video has made it to the huffington post.
That, "Send the black cu**s home" video has made it to the huffington post.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
The Daily Mash, Cannon and Ball to the Onion's Curb.
audiotech
wav, aiff, mp3, ogg, flac
I see they've used an image linked to the former Jewish Defence League, which I see still exists as a facebook page. Thought I'd have a trawl as a reminder of past events.
The JDL didn't exist (well existed in some form) once Roberta Moore left in 2011, after raising concerns of neo-fascists infiltrating the administration of the EDL. The message from Ms Moore was somewhat contradictory as she didn't mind their racist and nazi views, as long as they didn't say them in public. Her parting song for her troops:
Yaxley-Lennon, responding to a post on Pamela Geller's blog back in 2011, withdrawing her support for the EDL, to do with her concerns about racist and fascist infiltration, said this would be dealt with. After today's sieg heiler/Blood and Honour and Alan Spence's recent comments. You've some way to go yet Tommy and even after today's well attended rally that still would be down.
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