Luther Blissett
Nomadologist
Totally spot on. Tell your pal he rocks.
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Luther Blissett
Nomadologist
The EDL try to make out their only against 'radical Islam', but then at Brum demo one of the speechmakers said: "I see all Islam has to be treated like a cancer."
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
187 pages and finally we get somewhere. Fantastic.
Luther Blissett
Nomadologist
We've already been through this with Norfolk SWP and the EDL crashing them and Norfolk Antifa NCAG getting them to safety, which brought on some unbelievable criticism from a well-known scottish socialist. If I remember rightly there was a meeting organised by naive antifa newbies in Leeds that was crashied in 2010 by Snowy (?). There have been others but those are the two that spring to mind.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Luther Blissett
Nomadologist
oh ha Nothing's fucking changed there. They've always been against all Islam. I'm just reporting that their speeches are still against all Islam.
Anyway - they hung with Bloc Identitaire earlier in the year, so expecting to see a similar style from EDL soon - i.e. more off-street/conference-style activity.
Luther Blissett
Nomadologist
The Luther Blissett Transcript of Tommy's Remember November "I just do what the CVF tell me" Video Diary
"The EDL has to evolve ... I want to talk to the leadership of all the areas - the members - state this is what I think the future for the EDL holds - there is something going to be announced for early next year --and that's what I want to talk about in person -- so 19th -- come to Luton -- the meeting will be about what direction the EDL takes -- this meeting was not called by me -- this meeting was called by "the hierarchy" -- there's a hell of a lot of people behind closed doors -- that do a hell of a lot -- this meeting was called by them -- this meeting is for everyone to air their concerns -- and talk about the direction as a group -- some people wanted to call it off until January -- but some announcements before January will have people scratching their heads -- documentary's coming out -- an hour long -- think the whole country is going to be talking about it -- the english defence league is not dead -- there's a documentation I just read --- a quarter of the people in our organisation are thought to be infiltrators -- a quarter -- people are saying they're walking away -- what you going to walk away to? -- now that's what this meeting on the 19th -- to discuss the other option we're going to have -- we've had meetings with very influential people from all over the world about this -- when you say leader -- i'm a volunteer the same as you -- I'm not the leader"
lol @ Bob2009 saying the *wrong* answer.
The fact of the matter is that it is a worrying development for protesters if the police are using powers to prevent people attending protests in future because of violent conduct. If that were to be a level playing field, perhaps the old bill could get banned from future protests too?
But it's difficult not to smirk at the thought of 'Tommy Robinson' aka Stephen 'middle class double barrelled' Yaxley-Lennon (no relation to John) attending future meetings via video link-up whilst having a ten minute breather from 'Association' in Ford open prison for nobheads.
Neither feeling is the 'right' way to feel. I would encourage everyone not to deny either emotion but to spend a moment considering the two of them in unison.
The fact of the matter is that it is a worrying development for protesters if the police are using powers to prevent people attending protests in future because of violent conduct. If that were to be a level playing field, perhaps the old bill could get banned from future protests too?
But it's difficult not to smirk at the thought of 'Tommy Robinson' aka Stephen 'middle class double barrelled' Yaxley-Lennon (no relation to John) attending future meetings via video link-up whilst having a ten minute breather from 'Association' in Ford open prison for nobheads.
Neither feeling is the 'right' way to feel. I would encourage everyone not to deny either emotion but to spend a moment considering the two of them in unison.
Luther Blissett
Nomadologist
It wasn't going to happen. One the one foot, why hand Tommy's arse to the ICLA/CVF on a plate so they can write yet more banal articles in Gaffney-media aggregates about how EDL are persecuted by the government and martyred for the EDL cause? And on the other foot, there's always the pro-EDL anti-Tory articles coming from Lake's favourite think-tank, HudsonNY to consider.
It's certainly the case that the union did put a call out for stewards, as did the PSA, it might be the case that not every branch passed it on to it's activists but most would have. If none came forward well, can't say I blame them who would want to defend an event with Yvonne Ridley speaking at it?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Of course 'anti fascists' in Newcastle could hace spent the last 15 years buidling a political alternative to the far right.When you have a definition that anti fascism is trying to find and confront ( or more recently follow on Facebook) any organisation that fits the model of last century Nazis its not surprising that they are a bit late on the scene
sunnysidedown
caput mortuum
It took a while in Newcastle before the 'Geordies are Black & White' thing got started on the SJP terraces after a long time of NF/Bulldog paper sales outside the ground, and it was a while after a re-emergence of NF paper sales around the monument that AFA/ABC gave them a kicking in the early 90's.
PlaidDragon
We don't need money to have a good time
Can't believe supergrass got off with a three month suspended. Thought he was going down for sure!
Corax
Luke 5:16
Bloody hell I've managed 7 minutes of that video and so far it's just a big long whinge.
Froggie and Bob are both right. If it had happened, then of course it would be a very worrying development. Well, only a bit worrying tbh. Because there's fuck all chance of it standing up to an ECHR challenge once it got that far. But the idea still made me lol. C66 put it well.
It's just schadenfreude, compounded by irony.
Twelve minutes in to the video now (playing in the background). He's just spouted something far more concerning than the bickering above IMO. That was a very clear olive branch to the NWI/NEI. A reunification would provide an unwelcome morale boost, and could potentially reverse the decline in numbers, for a while at least.
Froggie and Bob are both right. If it had happened, then of course it would be a very worrying development. Well, only a bit worrying tbh. Because there's fuck all chance of it standing up to an ECHR challenge once it got that far. But the idea still made me lol. C66 put it well.
It's just schadenfreude, compounded by irony.
Twelve minutes in to the video now (playing in the background). He's just spouted something far more concerning than the bickering above IMO. That was a very clear olive branch to the NWI/NEI. A reunification would provide an unwelcome morale boost, and could potentially reverse the decline in numbers, for a while at least.
malatesta32
Not Serb. No, Really!
re: newcastle. an initiative from comrades down in brighton!
http://antifascistnetwork.wordpress.com/
this needs some serious consideration.
http://antifascistnetwork.wordpress.com/
this needs some serious consideration.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
It does but it will inevitably be the same last century anti fascism that will refuse to get their hands dirty building a political alternative in working class communities
malatesta32
Not Serb. No, Really!
local organisations have to develop a useful antifascist group that can grow out of anti-cuts, occupy etc., and stop the infidels and the edl from operating with impunity.
Luther Blissett
Nomadologist
If anyone is in Nottingham and are free tonight, can they please get down to @OccupyNotts who are facing threats from #edl muppets in the market square. There was a firework attack on camp this afternoon, more threats been made, and solidarity & support needed in camp tonight.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
could we lose the idea that having a double-barrelled name's the preserve of the middle classes? it's no longer the case, with couples more frequently choosing to combine their names.lol @ Bob2009 saying the *wrong* answer.
The fact of the matter is that it is a worrying development for protesters if the police are using powers to prevent people attending protests in future because of violent conduct. If that were to be a level playing field, perhaps the old bill could get banned from future protests too?
But it's difficult not to smirk at the thought of 'Tommy Robinson' aka Stephen 'middle class double barrelled' Yaxley-Lennon (no relation to John) attending future meetings via video link-up whilst having a ten minute breather from 'Association' in Ford open prison for nobheads.
Neither feeling is the 'right' way to feel. I would encourage everyone not to deny either emotion but to spend a moment considering the two of them in unison.
Corax
Luke 5:16
If that continues we're all going to end up sounding like Crufts entrants.
Luther Blissett
Nomadologist
Runner up for wanker of the week award goes to this free marketeer/UKIP member/PR journo, whose analysis bears only a feint resemblance to reality : http://bit.ly/rYoNDV
This UKIP member implies that the EDL demonstrate against (Polish) immigrants to Britain, and compares them to the social justice protests of Occupy that are happening around the country, nay, the World. Additionally, it's as good a reason as any to never to seek his services for a PR campaign that you care about.
This UKIP member implies that the EDL demonstrate against (Polish) immigrants to Britain, and compares them to the social justice protests of Occupy that are happening around the country, nay, the World. Additionally, it's as good a reason as any to never to seek his services for a PR campaign that you care about.
Luther Blissett
Nomadologist
Clear winner for the wanker of the week award - EDL's very own vanguard militia (who've been given a permanent home on Lake's forum) are making plans to remove the OccupyLSX camp: http://twitpic.com/7bvew2
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