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SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
While there's no doubt Warne is a cunt the problem here is the system that allows this bullshit and the lawyers who help shit drivers keep driving.
Warne's lawyer is arguing 'exceptional hardship' which seems unlikely as I doubt the fucker has to do any work for a living.
Warne's lawyer is arguing 'exceptional hardship' which seems unlikely as I doubt the fucker has to do any work for a living.
dessiato
4 years and I still cry sometimes
I had my driving medical last Monday. It took maybe 30 minutes including paperwork. The coordination test and speed awareness tests were done on a computer so old it had a CRT screen and a floppy drive. I passed. I can now have a Spanish licence, depending on DVLA getting their act together.
Given Warne was lucky enough to enjoy a few seasons in the very lucrative IPL at the end of his stella career hardship does seem highly unlikely. I suppose he may have gambled it all away. I wonder what his lawyer's fees are? Given he's so broke and all that.
hash tag
Books, not bombs
I'm impressed. Is this for a big standard driving licence, not a PSV or HGV or similar?
dessiato
4 years and I still cry sometimes
Just for car and car+trailer. I decided not to keep my 7,5 tonne truck, or mini-bus licences because I’ve not driven either for over 30 years. I don’t, therefore, know if that would have made a difference.
War on drivers who put cyclists at risk as London bike numbers surge
Police today vowed a new clampdown on dangerous drivers who put the cyclists’ lives at risk on London’s roads.
www.standard.co.uk
dervish
if you flibble when you wibble, don't wobble
We drove from Bristol to London yesterday along that endless 50mph limit that goes on for miles and miles and miles. Obviously the vast majority of people kept to 50 or close to but there were at least three people that didn't seem to give a shit about the limit and blasted down at 80+. Apart from that when you are pootling along happily every now and then you get someone who is obviously doing 60 or so going past. Do these people get away with it? Do they not care?
And more to the point, I've never heard of anyone getting a ticket from speeding in a average speed limit zone, does it actually happen?
And more to the point, I've never heard of anyone getting a ticket from speeding in a average speed limit zone, does it actually happen?
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
50 on your speedo means you're probably actually doing something like 45-48. Meanwhile others know they can happily do 50+10%+2 = 57 without being fined. So that's 10mph faster than you.
dervish
if you flibble when you wibble, don't wobble
Well yeah, I know that, but even with that taken into account I should have heard of someone who has been caught by an average speed camera. And when I say 50, I was actually doing 50 as read from my gps, so they were doing over the limit, and there are so many people doing it surely you'd hear about more people getting done.
I get the impression that they know that 98% of people are doing a sensible speed even if not exactly 50 so I would think the limit is actually set a bit higher to catch to total twats that go stupid speeds. Would like to know for sure though. I also read that not all the cameras are used for the speed calculations, often it will be mast 1 and 3 then 4-6 etc, so maybe people just know the route and know which ones they can get away with.
But still I would have thought that amongst all the people I have asked, quite a few who have been on speed awareness courses not one has ever heard of someone being done on a average speed trap.
Investigations will continue.
I get the impression that they know that 98% of people are doing a sensible speed even if not exactly 50 so I would think the limit is actually set a bit higher to catch to total twats that go stupid speeds. Would like to know for sure though. I also read that not all the cameras are used for the speed calculations, often it will be mast 1 and 3 then 4-6 etc, so maybe people just know the route and know which ones they can get away with.
But still I would have thought that amongst all the people I have asked, quite a few who have been on speed awareness courses not one has ever heard of someone being done on a average speed trap.
Investigations will continue.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
Yes, got done on the A12 I think , in Suffolk somewhere , can't remember the details (was about 10 years ago) but it was exceeding the average speed .
T & P
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For those wanting put the foot down for a brief period of time in an average speed zone, it is relatively easy to do so and not get caught. If you remember where the cameras are, you could keep within the limit for most of the time, and then between a given set of cameras you could put your foot down quite a bit for a brief period of time, and then compensate by going below the speed limit until the next camera, by which time your average speed between the previous camera and the current one should have come down to within the legal limit. If you're good with maths and don't fuck it up, that is.
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
So you end up going at the same average speed as someone who had stuck to the average speed limit, but with a period of going at an unsafe speed. Sounds like really great driving.
T & P
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Not advocating it myself, and have never done it or have any inclination to. It is certainly a stupid thing to do. I was just answering the question upthread about what's the deal with drivers you see zooming past you on an average speed zone.
dervish
if you flibble when you wibble, don't wobble
Yeah, I did consider that, but there are more than I would expect doing faster speeds than I would expect to not see more people getting done for it.
And yeah, it does amuse me to see people who still stick the brakes on just when they get to a camera, as if it will cancel out the 10+ mph they were doing beforehand.
And yeah, it does amuse me to see people who still stick the brakes on just when they get to a camera, as if it will cancel out the 10+ mph they were doing beforehand.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
T & P
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In toll motorways in France you can get done if your time between your entry and exit junctions shows you must have been going too fast. I suspect there might be cameras now as well, but yesteryear when there weren’t, some bikers would allegedly travel at propah nawty speeds throughout then stop and have a leisurely coffee at a services just before their exit until it was okay to leave time-wise.
BigTom
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I'm pretty sure that won't work, as they will do you for exceeding the average speed between any two pairs of cameras, not along the whole length of the average speed section. So you could exceed the speed limit for half of the distance between two cameras, then drive below the speed limit for the other half, if for some reason that seemed like a good idea?
How average speed cameras work - and how to avoid a fine
How do average speed cameras work - and can you dodge a speeding ticket by changing lanes?
I don't actually know where that is from, the pretty much the same text is on loads of local papers unsurprisingly so it's a press release from somewhere, but no idea where. Not clear at all if all cameras are on all the time and police can choose any two to pair to check speeds or if only some are on at any given moment and are always paired together for everyone.
But regardless, unless you somehow know which cameras are running and paired, which you can't reasonably know, then you need to assume any cameras can be paired and that ruins your plan.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Considering how hard it seems to be to actually get caught speeding, these people with multiple speeding convictions who get let off driving bans, they must just be speeding constantly. Anyone so arrogant that they think their inclination to hurtle about everywhere for their own amusement is more important than the safety of others should not be driving.
hash tag
Books, not bombs
Not sure what to say; how does she manage it. She has long since exhausted the speed awareness courses?
They way she is going, she will end up with a ban before much longer.
Get her an old car that cant go that fast, a Morris Minor or a van with a speed limiter on it!
Perhaps advanced driving lessons or a day behind the wheel with Mrs tag
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
The three years is up in early September, the notice came to me and I have 28 days to grass her up, I shall send that back at the last minute, they then write to her and she has 28 days, by which time the three years should be up. 36 in a 30 on a four lane dual carriageway in Epsom this time.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
I don't suppose driving within the speed limit is in any way an option?
Crazy talk
The motorway limit should be 80-90mph. For modern cars in good conditions 70mph is far too slow and feels it, which is why everyone ignores it. Drive at 70mph on a motorway in clear weather and you will be being constantly overtaken. People ignore rules that don't make sense and they know that 70mph is not enforced on motorways so they'll drive at around 80mph which feels correct and won't get you a ticket. Much faster than that and it's a good idea to know the roads and the type and locations of the enforcement.
I've never been done in an average speed check either but those are usually through roadworks and similar which is sensible, so I'm quite diligent with them anyway.
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