Donald Trump, the road that might not lead to the White House!

[not-bono-ever]

Conjecture is a far more productive thread filler than fact

 

[Pickman's model]

Conjecture is a far more productive thread filler than fact

we like conjecture and speculation

 

[mikey mikey]

see post 13582

That links to Zero Hedge and a pithy comment about its reliability as a source. Mine is from the Wall Street Journal, and in the context or the preceding ORLY? pic, is meant to say, "Yeah, really, if MSM is your only credible source."

You be a numbskull or you may be playing dumb. Eiether way I don't care.
2@

 

[not-bono-ever]

You do understand that the O RLY pic related to the patently made up name of the ex CIA source quoted in the article as opposed to a blunt instrument of bullying yes?

 

[Wilf]

You have to think of this as a process.

It's not really plausible the FSB could blackmail Trump with a bit of film featuring consensual sex with Russian whores. The man is a self confessed sexual abuser of women in public spaces and utterly shameless. If he was a British TV celebrity he might well be in choky. Financial dealings that compromised him are far more likely but his business dealings are known to be very sleazy. It's now fairly obvious he brazenly intends to milk high office for personal profit and he's getting a free pass on that.

Trump does behave as if he's been captured by Russian interests always leaping to Putin's defence in a way most unlikely for any senior US politician. It's so blatant it makes it unlikely he's been compromised by FSB blackmail. His knee jerk aggression against China is less rare but still rather eccentric. What he will do in office may have little to do with this ill informed drunken uncle windbaggery.

Russian Information Operations may have played a minor role in his victory but its put in the shade by the very American conspiracy theory peddling loons at Info Wars and Breitbart. He still got elected in what was pretty much a landslide in the Electoral College. It can't be said this was unexpected. He is a great father of lies, even his hair is a fiction and much of America loves him for skilfully evading hard truths.

And if Russian spooks were at work its probably a detail in a wider scheme to undermine Western democratic institutions. After all Putin would be an utter fool to really want a loose cannon like Trump actually elected rather than a predictably hostile Clinton. The big twerp trashing the Republican slate and getting to run is the gravy. The people have spoken; amen. America has wilfully elected a flagrant trickster to lead it and that in itself makes its democratic system look broken. He almost embodies Shaytân-e Bozorg not the Christian folklore Lucifer but a Loki like dissembler or a wounded snake as the Khomeinists would have America's role in the world.

Trump or one of his team could turn out to be an obvious Russian asset and he's still not going to resign like Willy Brandt did. A successful impeachment is very unlikely; you need a two thirds majority in a GOP dominated senate.

But throw enough mud and some of it will stick just as it did with the Clintons.

Post liked though I disagree with you as to who Russia would have wanted elected. If you think about Russian influence on the election itself, as you say, it would be difficult to isolate its effect in terms of what caused Trump's ultimate victory. Who knows, it might just have been enough to make a difference, though there were more important factors in play. However the emails saga did certainly disrupt Clinton's campaign. But what's worth saying, even if it's an obvious point, is that whatever influence Russia had it was precisely the kind of influence America itself has exercised on overseas elections for years. Plenty of chickens coming home to roost here.

 

[Yossarian]

As I said, I remain skeptical.

Some people I have been reading expect the default position is "CIA tells truf" but unless they deliver proof then the accusations remian baseless.

Whether or not evidence-based intelligence and skepticism of the CIA and MSM makes one a Putin-bot, Turmp supporting wingnut, I will leave up to you.

Always wise to be skeptical when 4chan declares itself to be responsible for anything.

 

[Pickman's model]

That links to Zero Hedge and a pithy comment about its reliability as a source. Mine is from the Wall Street Journal, and in the context or the preceding ORLY? pic, is meant to say, "Yeah, really, if MSM is your only credible source."

You be a numbskull or you may be playing dumb. Eiether way I don't care.
2@

do you know what "courtesy of the wsj" means?

let me help you - it means that yer man's source was the wall street journal.

you stupid, stupid wanker

 

[elbows]

Gold vodka was marketed with his name last decade, now defunct I believe due to poor sales.

 

[mikey mikey]

View attachment 98704

do you know what "courtesy of the wsj" means?

let me help you - it means that yer man's source was the wall street journal.

you stupid, stupid wanker

YOU just underlined MY point you fucking moron!

 

[Pickman's model]

YOU just underlined MY point you fucking moron!

don't try and bluster your way out of this, it doesn't impress

 

[not-bono-ever]

Fuck me, this is quicker than twitter

Shitter than twitter

 

[mikey mikey]

Pickman, old boy:
I shall call you Rowena and you can be my thisck person.

 

[Pickman's model]

Pickman, old boy:
I shall call you Rowena and you can be my thisck person.

yeh. your thisck person. right.

if you're going to call people thick you might learn to spell the fucking word, you stupid wanker.

 

[mikey mikey]

Do you know what a typo is Rowena?

Your in a library, so maybe you could look it up.

Off you go now. dear.

 

[Pickman's model]

Do you know what a typo is Rowena?

Your in a library, so maybe you could look it up.

Off you go now. dear.

oh, a typo. right. that'll explain why in this post you've fucked up the spelling of 'you're'.

perhaps you don't know the difference between your, yore and you're. you're on the internet. look it up.

you ignorant wanker.

 

[mikey mikey]

Beware you local library. It may contain a grammar nazi!

 

[Pickman's model]

Beware you local library. It may contain a grammar nazi!

can you spot your latest fuck up, you ignorant wanker?

 

[Idris2002]

 

[mikey mikey]

can you spot your latest fuck up, you ignorant wanker?

I am sure that you will be there to correct them rather than engage in the topic of the thread.

 

[Pickman's model]

I am sure that you will be there to correct them rather than engage in the topic of the thread.

Wrong again, cancerman

 

[gosub]

Should have gone with scat. Piss is too mundane.

Bollocks, it was an inch perfect bow shot. All thats golden does not glitter.

 

[mikey mikey]

That is a copy of the CIA report, right? Do you have the link?

 

[not-bono-ever]

its not real

 

[Pickman's model]

That is a copy of the CIA report, right? Do you have the link?

yes. but i'm not sharing it with you.

 

[teqniq]

Bollocks, it was an inch perfect bow shot. All thats golden does not glitter.

 

[mikey mikey]

Just in case you were thinking that Bernie was not a Trump supporter, the NYP has bad news for you.
Bernie Sanders heaps praise on Donald Trump
He doesn't do anything of the sort, but who cares abour that?

It's HRC/CIA all the way, baby!

 

[Pickman's model]

Bollocks, it was an inch perfect bow shot. All thats golden does not glitter.

merchant of venice 2:7

 

[mikey mikey]

its not real

Although Pickman liked your post, he was remiss in his duty, as resident librarian and Grammar Nazi, to point out the lack of an apostrophe.

Correct it in time, and you may escape his wrath!

 

[eoin_k]

That is a copy of the CIA report, right? Do you have the link?

its not real

It's not even a spoof CIA report. It's a spoof of a report that was supposedly produced by a former British spook, working for a private company, initially commissioned by a Republican client.

 

[not-bono-ever]

here's a hypothetical for youse

lalalalalalalalalalalala

just suppose