Donald Trump, the road that might not lead to the White House!

[little_legs]

Personally I was hoping it would collapse under the stern boots of red flag waving soviet hordes.

Out of curiosity, have you ever lived in or visited Soviet Union?

 

[redsquirrel]

God help us. Let's not forget either that George Bush got in. There's been one buffoon before him. And we saw what happened there!

What did happen there?

 

[not-bono-ever]

is there an Urban thread where we can lionise political strongmen?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Well not break it but make the neo liberal , globalised capitalist system legitimately unpopular. As in officially a vote loser . Politically toxic. The French ambassador tweeted today that " the world as we know it is collapsing " . Good. It deserves to collapse. Trump can possibly fuck up the smooth manner in which it operates .

Personally I was hoping it would collapse under the stern boots of red flag waving soviet hordes. But if the right end up breaking it I'll settle for an own goal . It had become normalised . Now it isn't . There's opportunities there. Different debates possible. For the US to choose Trump ..an opponent of globalisation...so he says..that's pretty big. Much to hate about him but that doesn't mean the situation hasn't changed. The neo liberal, globalised order is in big trouble now. That was the USA that just told it to fuck off.

Wow.

It occurred to me a while ago that, if world capitalism as we know it is to collapse, the first place to rebel against it will be the US. I was imagining it happening from the left, but for it to happen from the right makes sense too.

Although I wouldn't be betting on Trump doing much of any significance on that front. Both Republicans and Democrats will oppose him, backed by powerful interests.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

krtek and CR are now on forced ignore.

 

[not-bono-ever]

It was the rise of the Davos class that sealed America’s fate | Naomi Klein

not sure if this has been posted, but Klein has done a few hundred words on Neolib and Clinton

 

[Jurrihahay]

A lot of them don't . Many of them are just angry and lashing out with what's to hand .

Given the complete absence of anything else, it's amazing how many people apparently can't see this.

 

[Jurrihahay]

The worlds gone back 30 years

There's no backwards or forwards. There's just what is.

 

[krtek a houby]

There's no backwards or forwards. There's just what is.

eh, what does that even mean?

 

[bubblesmcgrath]

Thats a clip from a episode from 2015.

The original was 16 years ago. ...in an episode called Bart To The Future . ..lisa becomes president and inherits all the problems of the previous president Donald Trump.
This episode was referenced again in an episode last year but the original reference to Trump as president was in 2000.

 

[Jurrihahay]

eh, what does that even mean?

Nothing.

 

[8den]

The original was 16 years ago. ...in an episode called Bart To The Future . ..lisa becomes president and inherits all the problems of the previous president Donald Trump.
This episode was referenced again in an episode last year but the original reference to Trump as president was in 2000.

Yes but I'm getting annoyed with people using a picture from an episode from 2015.

 

[Ax^]

There's no backwards or forwards. There's just what is.

Trump wants to ape the presidency of Reagan

May wants to echo the premiership of Maggie


and the off boil cold war with Russia

feels like it gone back 30 years...

 

[bubblesmcgrath]

Yes but I'm getting annoyed with people using a picture from an episode from 2015.

I was not aware it had been posted previously in this thread ?

 

[gosub]

Thank you for your comment. How might be accidentally break the system? Its so depressing, I need some branch of hope to cling on to.

His idea of renegotiating US debt would break global capitalism. Though I think more likely is he'll break the 2 party system. He's got good reason to think he won in spite of the Republicans and thems on the hill that stand up to him will deserve a Trump kicking... Can't see him still wearing a red tie in 4 years time. Whether he's still there or its President Pence by then I don't know.

 

[8den]

I was not aware it had been posted previously in this thread ?

I'm pointing out the image was an episode was from a different decade than the episode you are talking about. Why can't you get that?

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Another 50 pages of crap...

 

[Jurrihahay]

Trump wants to ape the presidency of Reagan

May wants to echo the premiership of Maggie


and the off boil cold war with Russia

feels like it gone back 30 years...

Maybe they do. It isn't the same world, though.
But what I question is the apparent idea that things have 'moved forward' since then.

 

[Ax^]

i'd reference Rambo 3

but its been done to death...

 

[Yossarian]

Trump's appointed a climate skeptic to head the Environmental Protection Agency. Less than 24 hours as president-elect and I'm already hoping he gets assassinated soon.

Trump Picks Climate Skeptic For EPA

 

[twentythreedom]

I just can't believe that, of all people, of all the possibilities, Donald Fucking Trump is going to be the next POTUS. What the fuck. There are no words.

 

[8den]

Christ, Melanie Phillips is on Newsnight, defending Trump. Perfect end to this day.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Christ, Melanie Phillips is on Newsnight, defending Trump. Perfect end to this day.

They both share the same psychotic hatred of muslims.

 

[Wilf]

I just can't believe that, of all people, of all the possibilities, Donald Fucking Trump is going to be the next POTUS. What the fuck. There are no words.

Assuming he lasts in office till 2021, that means they'll have had an alleged rapist as POTUS for almost half of the years since 1993.

 

[twentythreedom]

It's horrific, the whole thing Terrifying

 

[Wilf]

Anyway, last couple of decades have been good for pacifists. Not a warmonger among them, every one managed to avoid the draft, bar Obama (who didn't need to).

 

[Jurrihahay]

They both share the same psychotic hatred of muslims.

What do you expect? For them to have had a sudden change of heart?

 

[Jurrihahay]

It's horrific, the whole thing Terrifying

It isn't terrifying. It's routine.

 

[Wilf]

It's horrific, the whole thing Terrifying

Yep, if we can step aside from urban's 'hilarly vs Donnie, who is worst' thing, you have to acknowledge exactly that. Life is going to get a lot grimmer for a lot of people.

 

[twentythreedom]

It isn't terrifying. It's routine.

Yeah, that is itself part of what makes it so