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Donald Trump, the road that might not lead to the White House!

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Yes clearly the Hillary Clinton campaign had no influence at all on the media which almost unanimously backed her.

How much influence her campaign had with media is neither here nor there. Short of kidnapping him, there would have been no way of preventing Trump from dominating media coverage of the Republican primaries. You must know this.
 
How much influence her campaign had with media is neither here nor there. Short of kidnapping him, there would have been no way of preventing Trump from dominating media coverage of the Republican primaries. You must know this.

I don't know that at all.
 
She's personally implicated in the deaths of over 2 million Muslims . Up to her ears in innocent blood . And she fully intended to kill a hell of a lot more before she got stopped in her tracks by the orange faced clown .
Stop pretending to give one flying fuck about Muslims while ignoring these crimes against humanity with her fingerprints all over them .

And fuck off .

2 million you say...

well with Republican control across the board lets see who long it takes Trump to smash that record


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Clearly, that's embarrassing for team Hilary. But the fact is Trump got the coverage he did because he was already a celebrity and because he said things that grabbed the media's attention.

90 percent of the shite he came out with only served to deflect from Clintons wrongdoing and corruption. It allowed the MSM to concentrate on his bollocking about and ignore Clintons sins. That only stopped a fortnight ago when his aides took his mobile off him and stopped his late night twitter rampages . Then he wiped her out .

Clinton surrounded herself with mugh bigger celebrities ..an army of them..and 2 presidents. She still lost. Because she was an atrocious candidate who personified elite corruption . She was beaten hands down by a complete arsehole with zero experience . That only happens when a candidate is atrociously shit .
 
which is what I said. "(she was) part of a poltical establishment that ignored and exacerbated inequality".

They did everything in their power to normalise it, to promote it, to ensure its continuance . To legitimise it . They safeguarded inequality . They actively sought to maximise it . When the super rich went to the the clintons and told them they needed Glass STeagal repealed , so they could gamble on the stock exchange, it was done. When the super rich went to them and told them they wanted even bigger profits by globalising trade, it was done. That was more than exacerbating inequality . It was actively maximising it . Pushing it to the limit it is today . We're the wealthiest in the world have never before hoarded and stole so much of the worlds wealth . They didn't ignore it. They actively pursued it. Because they were handsomely paid to do it .
 
Anyway, given the success of this loathsome incompetent businessman, Sir Philip Green must think he has a chance for PM in 2020.
 
Irvine Welsh was remarkably incisive on Ch4 News, pointing out that while the liberals/media see this as a crisis, places like hartlepool, or Youngstown in Ohio have been in crisis for many years.

So, just like here in the UK...those voters believe he will deliver/things will change. None of us are holding our breath.
 
I woke up this morning and when I heard the words 'surprise result' my heart sank. I felt sick.

Best case scenario is that the brainwork is done by his team, who are hopefully less bigoted than he.
 
I woke up this morning and when I heard the words 'surprise result' my heart sank. I felt sick.

Best case scenario is that the brainwork is done by his team, who are hopefully less bigoted than he.

His team areaway worse than him. Trump has been decent enough on occasion. During some odd lucid moments. His team are pure scum .
 
His team areaway worse than him. Trump has been decent enough on occasion. During some odd lucid moments. His team are pure scum .

God help us. Let's not forget either that George Bush got in. There's been one buffoon before him. And we saw what happened there!

Trump himself is very surprised, I suspect. In this day of mourning, I wonder are there any positives in terms of reinvigorating industry in the US. His acceptance speech was calm and conciliatory. Canvassing and leading are two different things. I think he will be blander than one thinks. He is with the big boys now.
 
best we can hope for can be his aides take care and tell him when just to shut the fuck up


and he can be another bumbling fuckwit who spends most of his time in camp David


still going to be shit as the republicans have full control..

the worlds gone back 30 years

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best we can hope for can be his aides take care and tell him when just to shut the fuck up


and he can be another bumbling fuckwit who spends most of his time in camp David


still going to be shit as the republicans have full control..

the worlds gone back 30 years

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Best we can hope for is a terrible accident taking out Trump and pence before Jan 20, along with Theresa May and half the cabinet
 
God help us. Let's not forget either that George Bush got in. There's been one buffoon before him. And we saw what happened there!

Trump himself is very surprised, I suspect. In this day of mourning, I wonder are there any positives in terms of reinvigorating industry in the US. His acceptance speech was calm and conciliatory. Canvassing and leading are two different things. I think he will be blander than one thinks. He is with the big boys now.

My only hope for this clown is that he's genuine on his desire not to go to war with Russia . Which Clinton was zooming straight into, top priority in office . And that he' ll knock off the support for Syrian jihadis . Clinton wanted to use office to persue her long standing grudge with Putin . And to persue her messianic American exceptionalism agenda . She was heading straight into a showdown , really looking forward to it . And would have been surrounding herself with lunatics who'd be telling her this was her moment, hand of history..all that bollocks .and she'd have killed us all .because she's a fucking disaster merchant .

Imagine someone with the judgement that allowed Trump to win engaging in those high risk games ? She thought she could actually win that showdown . She couldn't even beat trump .

Hopefully putins KGB training will allow him to successfully flatter and contain trump . Keep his ego stoked . That's what I'm hoping for.

Outside of that I haven't much hope around him at all . Apart from him accidentally breaking the system.
 
God help us. Let's not forget either that George Bush got in. There's been one buffoon before him. And we saw what happened there!

Trump himself is very surprised, I suspect. In this day of mourning, I wonder are there any positives in terms of reinvigorating industry in the US. His acceptance speech was calm and conciliatory. Canvassing and leading are two different things. I think he will be blander than one thinks. He is with the big boys now.
I think you will be unpleasantly surprised
 
My only hope for this clown is that he's genuine on his desire not to go to war with Russia . Which Clinton was zooming straight into, top priority in office . And that he' ll knock off the support for Syrian jihadis . Clinton wanted to use office to persue her long standing grudge with Putin . And to persue her messianic American exceptionalism agenda . She was heading straight into a showdown , really looking forward to it . And would have been surrounding herself with lunatics who'd be telling her this was her moment, hand of history..all that bollocks .and she'd have killed us all .because she's a fucking disaster merchant .

Imagine someone with the judgement that allowed Trump to win engaging in those high risk games ? She thought she could actually win that showdown . She couldn't even beat trump .

Hopefully putins KGB training will allow him to successfully flatter and contain trump . Keep his ego stoked . That's what I'm hoping for.

Outside of that I haven't much hope around him at all . Apart from him accidentally breaking the system.

Thank you for your comment. How might be accidentally break the system? Its so depressing, I need some branch of hope to cling on to.
 
First foreign leader to call to congratulate Trump was Putin. Let's hope Trump's lack of interest in foreign affairs stays that way, cos I was getting a bit twitchy about what was building up in Eastern Europe...
 
Thank you for your comment. How might be accidentally break the system? Its so depressing, I need some branch of hope to cling on to.

Well not break it but make the neo liberal , globalised capitalist system legitimately unpopular. As in officially a vote loser . Politically toxic. The French ambassador tweeted today that " the world as we know it is collapsing " . Good. It deserves to collapse. Trump can possibly fuck up the smooth manner in which it operates .

Personally I was hoping it would collapse under the stern boots of red flag waving soviet hordes. But if the right end up breaking it I'll settle for an own goal . It had become normalised . Now it isn't . There's opportunities there. Different debates possible. For the US to choose Trump ..an opponent of globalisation...so he says..that's pretty big. Much to hate about him but that doesn't mean the situation hasn't changed. The neo liberal, globalised order is in big trouble now. That was the USA that just told it to fuck off.

Wow.
 
you know what? clinton's despair is somehow not quite compensating for the shitiness of the situation the world is in now. Fuck her - she's partly responsible for allowing a capricous, racist, bullying proto-fascist bigot sieze control of the most powerful nation in the world - but there is no joy to be had here.

The joy seems to emanate from teflon homophobes posting "bwa ha ha ha" and other bollocks. It's interesting the uncanny similarity between Trump and those who have bigged him up over the last few months.

Even more interesting is how said homophobes who are triumphant over this fucker - can post without any repercussion, constant hatred against LGBT and women.

I never said Hilary was the best. I know she's not. But by Christ; take a fucking look at Trump's biggest cheerleader here.
 
No actually keep up the whining. I'm giggling into my pint every time I see someone doing it .

As an alcoholic myself; I find a lot of people will prefer those who have something to say, rather than the bloke in the corner giggling. Pretending he has mates who take over his phone and/or egg him on to more assinine commentary.
 
Fuck off krtek .

No, sorry old bean. You started today after a few bevvies, making yet more homophobic comments. You're (so far) protected by your drinking buddies but one of these days; you're going to get a slap on the wrist.

You think you can get away with the constant homophobia. But you won't.

Why are you so frightened by LGBT people and women?
 
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