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have you ever explored your dark side?
people who haven't experienced wars seem to love wars more than those who have experienced them.
Donald Trump, the road that might not lead to the White House!
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J Ed
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8% of the black vote, 29% of the Latino and Asian vote.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
I'm not sure how anything can be worse than Trump.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
It was Clinton's team in the primaries against obama who originally gave that nonsense legs and brought it into the political discourse, and thus to trumps attention.
Brainaddict
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The change from last time is in the right hand column. Admittedly the swing in the black vote isn't so surprising because there was an actual black candidate in the last two elections and none in this one. The swing in Latino/Hispanic and Asian voters is a bit more
The Octagon
Stop...Hammertime
Traditionally he has to host Trump for tea (or some shit) on the morning of the inauguration.
Go on Obama, you know you want to.
bi0boy
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J Ed
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Yes I know, posted about it upthread.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Sorry, so much drivel posted recently that I've missed decent stuff.
coley
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Both articles are true though, the neoliberals have alienated most ordinary people and Trump is still going to be an unmitigated disaster.
Brainaddict
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At an early stage I think? And the polls beforehand did. The full exit poll looks like it reflects the actual outcome, though I admit I don't know the methodology.Didn't the exit polls predict a Clinton win?
not a trot
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Farage has been spotted buying a lottery ticket.
gawkrodger
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To be fair, for both Brexit and Trumpit, the pollsters had it at pretty much 50/50 in the last days. Both actual results were probably round about within the stated margin for error. Not their fault if people interpret 49/51 +/- 3 as being a solid prediction of a win for the 51.
Where they keep getting it wrong, however, is in translating raw data into results for first past the post systems. Which is tricky at best. They also keep mucking up the analysis of trends, which is less forgivable.
skyscraper101
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krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Indeed. Balance has been restored to the dark side.
bimble
floofy
Yuwipi Woman
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The change from last time is in the right hand column. Admittedly the swing in the black vote isn't so surprising because there was an actual black candidate in the last two elections and none in this one. The swing in Latino/Hispanic and Asian voters is a bit more
They were the vote that put Clinton in during the primary. Then, they didn't really show up in the numbers needed for the general. A different candidate to Clinton would have faired better against Trump.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yep - and plenty of others who have crossed him.
By the by, I've forgotten what happens to the investments/finances of American Presidents when in office? In Britain the PM (and Cabinet?) are supposed to leave the management of their assets of someone else and not make direct decisions about where to invest etc. Not sure what happens in the usa and too rushed to look at the moment. However I can't see Trump doing that.
Brainaddict
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And again: lower income voters are generally Democrat-inclined. The democrats could stand a stick of wood and it would get a decent showing among low income people for not being Republican (I know I'd vote for it). If we want to know the Trump/Clinton effect we need to look at the difference between this and recent elections. A 16% swing towards Trump is pretty significant, and a pretty significant failure for Clinton.
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