Donald Trump, the road that might not lead to the White House!

[redsquirrel]

Would Bernie Sanders have defeated Donald Trump?

all hypothetical now, but what stats there are suggest he wouldve at the very least done better than hilary and in the end trump didnt win it by much..a percentage point here and there

Indeed considering how unpopular Clinton was (more so than any other presidential candidate bar Trump himself) I don't think it's mad to believe that another candidate would have seen off Trump, as you say it was a very close win.

 

[teqniq]

 

[Pickman's model]

Indeed considering how unpopular Clinton was (more so than any other presidential candidate bar Trump himself) I don't think it's mad to believe that another candidate would have seen off Trump, as you say it was a very close win.

should have had bruno tonioli standing

 

[hot air baboon]

She lost to a man who has admitted not paying his taxes and assaulting women.

well tbh the taxes point is moot...he had losses that you can carry forward to off-set against future income....pretty much every tax code in the world has that rule I should think

 

[Pickman's model]

 

[eoin_k]

She lost to a man who has admitted not paying his taxes and assaulting women. If he can win against those sorts of headlines he can win against anything.

This was horribly predictable form the very start. We are living in a world that is built by and for men like him.

This absolves the Democrats and the American liberal elite of any responsibility for how they lost the election. It suggests that we don't live in a world that women like Hillary are determined to maintain because they do very well out of it too. Her sense of entitlement to stand despite her lack of popular support and mountains of similar baggage made this possible.

 

[Ranbay]

^ Sneering at others - its such a wonderful quality.

(eta - at ranbay)

Yeah it's more directed at me than you as I make lots of spelling mistakes. But please do make a photo on the internet all about you

 

[ska invita]

Yeah, coz all the stats and polls nailed this, yeah?

I think based on our last general election, brexit and this we can consign polling in its current form to the dustbin.

thats throwing the baby out with the bath water. whatever you may think of those polls he definitely was doing better than hilary and especially with swing/indie voters, and trump really squezed in last night, but did so in all the key states. Some of the margins were really tight...Wisconsin was won by 1%. Pensylvania 1%. Florida 1.4%, Michigan 0.3% win, worth 11 electoral votes. New Hampshire 0.1%

 

[littlebabyjesus]

well tbh the taxes point is moot...he had losses that you can carry forward to off-set against future income....pretty much every tax code in the world has that rule I should think

That just makes it even worse. See - billionaires can legally pay no tax, this system is broken.

 

[Pickman's model]

That just makes it even worse. See - billionaires can legally pay no tax, this system is broken.

yeh but it would be disappointing if his reassuringly expensive accountants left him paying tax.

 

[DotCommunist]

watch the labour rightists get not a clue from this and continue to knife their own left wing right up till may gets a second term. Fuck a duck, president trump. What a year it has been

 

[andysays]

This seems strangely appropriate in the aftermath of Clinton's defeat

I've seen examples of the first four already, but I suspect it will be a little longer before Clinton supporters get to stage 5

 

[phillm]

 

[extra dry]

Where are all the actors and pop stars fleeing from the sinking ship?

 

[Orang Utan]

Where are all the actors and pop stars fleeing from the sinking ship?

stupid question

 

[elbows]

Where are all the actors and pop stars fleeing from the sinking ship?

Well Katy Perry has taken a leaf out of her ex's book and started dribbling about revolution.

Katy Perry says 'revolution is coming' as Donald Trump is elected US president

 

[teqniq]

Where are all the actors and pop stars fleeing from the sinking ship?

According to a mate on FB Canada's immigration website crashed multiple times last night.

 

[krtek a houby]

Well Katy Perry has taken a leaf out of her ex's book and started dribbling about revolution.

Katy Perry says 'revolution is coming' as Donald Trump is elected US president

Some Donald Trump Voters Warn of Revolution if Hillary Clinton Wins

Jared Halbrook, 25, of Green Bay, Wis., said that if Mr. Trump lost to Hillary Clinton, which he worried would happen through a stolen election, it could lead to “another Revolutionary War.”

“People are going to march on the capitols,” said Mr. Halbrook, who works at a call center. “They’re going to do whatever needs to be done to get her out of office, because she does not belong there.”

 

[phillm]

Well Katy Perry has taken a leaf out of her ex's book and started dribbling about revolution.

Katy Perry says 'revolution is coming' as Donald Trump is elected US president

she should stick to dissing Taylor Swift

 

[treelover]

Trump 'loves war'

so much so he dodged the draft seven times.

 

[treelover]

An American Tragedy - The New Yorker

The election of Donald Trump to the Presidency is nothing less than a tragedy for the American republic, a tragedy for the Constitution, and a triumph for the forces, at home and abroad, of nativism, authoritarianism, misogyny, and racism. Trump’s shocking victory, his ascension to the Presidency, is a sickening event in the history of the United States and liberal democracy. On January 20, 2017, we will bid farewell to the first African-American President—a man of integrity, dignity, and generous spirit—and witness the inauguration of a con who did little to spurn endorsement by forces of xenophobia and white supremacy. It is impossible to react to this moment with anything less than revulsion and profound anxiety.

Not one mention of how working class americans will fare.

 

[J Ed]

Looks like Clinton will win the popular vote.

 

[J Ed]

Not one mention of how working class americans will fare.

Badly

 

[agricola]

Looks like Clinton will win the popular vote.

A piece of wreckage for them to cling on to, at least.

 

[Yossarian]

You know things have gotten weird when David Duke is tweeting "GOD BLESS WIKILEAKS."

 

[WouldBe]

They should change the US national anthem to "It's the end of the world as we know it."

Fingers crossed someone will take him out before he's inaugurated.

 

[agricola]

They should change the US national anthem to "It's the end of the world as we know it."

Fingers crossed someone will take him out before he's inaugurated.

Wouldn't that mean Mike Pence would be the President? That would be worse than Trump.

 

[andysays]

This looks like it's worth a read
Hillary Clinton and the US election: What went wrong for her?

A few bits which jump out

This election, surely the most extraordinary in American history, was a revolt against the political establishment. And few people personify the political establishment more than Hillary Clinton. During this campaign, for millions of angry voters, she became the face of America's broken politics.

Hillary Clinton has long had a trust problem, which is why the email scandal loomed so large. She had an authenticity problem. She was seen as the high priestess of an east coast elite that looked down, sneeringly, on working people. The vast riches that the Clintons accumulated since leaving the White House did not help. The former first couple were seen not just as limousine liberals but Lear Jet liberals. Again, their wealth exacerbated her problems with working class voters, even though they happily voted for a property tycoon.

In a year when so many Americans wanted change, she appeared to offer more of the same. It's always hard for a party to win three successive terms in the White House. The Democrats have not done it since the 1940s. But that problem was exacerbated by the fact that so many voters were bored with the Clintons.

 

[Brainaddict]

Exit polls showing the swings to Trump mostly in the lower income, black, latino and Asian votes. Election 2016: Exit Polls

 

[J Ed]

Honestly I had forgotten about the birth certificate stuff, then I saw that Obama had talked with Trump to give him congratulations. Jesus.